ID required to buy Surefire Batteries?

[Kenstaroni]

I was at a store in Kentucky today that I frequent. I asked the guy behind the counter for a box of Surefire CR123's (12). He said sure but I'll need your ID. I thought he was just kidding with me but he was serious. He said if you buy more than 4 batteries there is a state law that requires a photocopy of your ID. I of course asked why...he said because people make meth with them. I didn't even ask for any more details and said "I'll take 4 of them then, I'm not having my ID copied for batteries".

Anyone ever heard of this? Do meth heads really go to gun stores to buy Surefire batteries?

Thought I would post this as I thought it was rediculus.

[Murgatroy]

Yup.

They strip the batteries for something or other.

When I was in retail, we were distributed a list, if a customer bought more than three items on the list and purchased less than ten items total, you had to ask for their ID. This was eight years or more ago.

[Guest jackdm3]

Lithium

[Guest bkelm18]

They're stripped for the lithium for use in the "Nazi method" of cooking meth.

[Kenstaroni]

That's just incredible...I can't imagine why anyone would want to put something like that in their body, but then again I'm not into that sort of thing..lol

[Magiccarpetrides]

its the "shake and bake" bottle method. Nazi's got it right a long time ago...back when people just thought it made you stronger and more alert...sh*t's dangerous as hell....crazy world we live in.

[Kenstaroni]

I've bought Lithium batteries numerous times including Surefire's and this was the first time I was ever asked for an ID. I guess this is nothing new but it was to me today.

[PolePosition]

You won't believe how many obvious meth-heads come into the pharmacies here to buy ingredients. And they are so dumb too, sending in their buddies one at a time (when you can clearly see all of them pull up in the same car) to buy bulks of sudafed. Others go to the counter to check out, with a cart of pretty much all the necessary ingredients for cooking meth. They are promptly escorted to the door....doesn't surprise me people check for ID on lithium battery sales...its always the dumb people that forces management or policy makers to enact stupid but necessary rules.

[Kenstaroni]

Yeah, that kind of thing makes sense to me, but a gun store? (it is Kentucky so who knows ) that was what threw me off. If it had happened at Walgreens I wouldn't have been so surprised.

[Guest pfries]

Sorry guys just got caught up with the post,

I was out drinking the battery acid from the Chevy....

It will never cease to amaze me just how stupid, stupid gets.

[Pain103]

Lithium strips from batteries with the other ingredients start a chemical reaction to cook it. It's horrible stuff and extremely volatile. The shake and bake bottles are popping up more and more. The suits we have to wear to dismantle the labs won't protect at all from the explosion lol.

[Dolomite_supafly]

I watched a show the other day that had an individual go step by step through the shake and bake process. Pretty amazing how easy it really is. And there is no way we are going to curb the cooking unless we outlaw one of the main ingredients.

Dolomite

[dralarms]

Oh crap, I must be on someone's list big time. I buy lit. batteries all the time in bulk, and just bought 5 12 packs of surefires last week.

[Guest bkelm18]

I watched a show the other day that had an individual go step by step through the shake and bake process. Pretty amazing how easy it really is. And there is no way we are going to curb the cooking unless we outlaw one of the main ingredients.

Dolomite

Oh yeah, cooking meth is a ridiculously simple process. It's also ridiculously dangerous, but I guess that doesn't stop people.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I was asked by a friend who owned a hardware store in Clarksville why I bought acetone, and why I bought

Liquid Fire, at different times. I laughed at her and asked why it matters. She said it had to do with meth. I

asked her how long she knew me and how many times I have been arrested. She knew the answer and sold

it to me.

Liquid Fire goes in the damned plumbing and acetone, well, why should anyone have to answer this crap?

We are becoming way too PC and criminalized. Surefire batteries? Give me a break!

[Guest jackdm3]

I watched a show the other day that had an individual go step by step through the shake and bake process. Pretty amazing how easy it really is. And there is no way we are going to curb the cooking unless we outlaw one of the main ingredients.

Dolomite

Won't be outlawing lithium, then. We have a considerable presence in the middle east to procure it.

[MudBugjr]

Maybe I'm not pc enough, but let the meth heads do what they want and poison themselves. If I need some batteries for my flashlight and my toilet is stopped up and i need drano don't treat me like a criminal. When will it stop. There is all kinds of products on the market that could be used in the wrong way. Maybe we should all move into a padded room and let the gov tell us whats good for us.

[Guest db99wj]

Seems like all one would need to do is look at the before and after pics of meth addicts. Problem should be solved. They should show this in schools. Ive seen the pics. If I was out and someone said, here do this it's meth, I would be like no way. I don't get it.

[Murgatroy]

I have very mixed feelings on this matter.

I have watched from the sidelines after years of trying to help as my second from youngest sister has destroyed her life through drug abuse. Including meth.

She is ten years younger than I am. However she now looks at least ten years older than I am. She has lost custody of her son, she is a convicted felon. She has been in and out of rehab more times than I can count, and more than my mother or myself can afford anymore. I washed my hands of her several years ago, after I tried getting custody of her son, thankfully her ex-husband stepped up and became a man and I didn't have to take on that responsibility.

She has stolen money and goods from myself, my mother, her ex-husband, the few friends she did have. She has stolen cars, been involved in a counterfeit money scheme, stolen from her drug dealers... The list goes on. I personally had her arrested after I caught her stealing from my mother. She showed up at my mother's house, slashed the tires on my mother's truck. I politely asked her to leave, and eventually needed the persuasion that only a double barrel 12ga can provide to get her and her associates off of the property. I followed her into town, her vehicle was struck from behind by one of her associates, and when the truck lid popped open, my mother (who was with me, as we were going to get her tires replaced) spotted her brand new LCD TV in the trunk. I exited my vehicle, and gave my sister the fairest chance I could. "N*****, I am calling the police, you have ten minutes until they arrive, you have some very important decisions to make."

She was defiant and stood on the side of the road, when the police arrived, they busted her with the following: two of my mother's checkbooks, the television, three bottles of unidentified mixed pills in prescription bottles without labels, drug paraphernalia including needles and syringes and the icing on the cake, the S&W Sigma that I had purchased the day before, and still had the receipt in my pocket for.

At this time, my sister also had a pending warrant for check fraud and theft over $500, the sum was actually better than $5000. My mother will never see a penny of it I am sure. She had filed charges against my sister on Friday for the checks, I took her out Saturday and bought her the pistol, and taught her how to use it. She was afraid of retaliation, such as having her tires slashed... She left in on her nightstand, and that is where my sister found it. Oddly enough, she unloaded it before she took it. The officer assumed she meant to sell it, as opposed to rob someone with it.

Now, having personal experience with the dangers of hard core drug addiction, including meth, I am on the fence with some of the laws we are enacting to combat it.

Yes, it needs to be fought, but how? Making the items used to produce it means they find more dangerous ways to make it, such as the shake and bake method we are hearing of lately. It makes it inconvenient for law abiding citizens such as ourselves to walk into Walgreens and buy Sudafed, Walmart and buy batteries, Autozone and buy brake fluid. Where do we end our civil liberties to combat something as vicious as meth?

Meth doesn't have as clear a target as the marijuana trade. The users are often making it themselves. We don't have a farmer, a mule and a dealer to contend with. We have half baked drug addicts with a two liter bottle making it in the back of their van, while their kids sleep in the front making it, so they can smoke it right then.

I don't know what the answer is, but I know we need to do something.

[Kenstaroni]

This drug is likely one of the worst ones out there. I say decriminalize Mary Jane and focus attention on drugs like meth and cocaine. MJ has never killed anyone, can't OD on it, really doesn't hurt anyone other than a few lazy couch potatoes in their parents basement. I would be all for a minimum stiff sentence for meth on 1st offense. It's crept its way into every town in this country and is destroying families like a cancer through the population.

[sigmtnman]

Decriminalize all drugs. People who want to self destruct will find a way to do it. If someone wants to get high they will find something to get high on. I remember losers in my high school huffing gas, freon and whatever else they could get. One guy died sniffing Whiteout.

Laws that aim to stop hypothetical crimes are ridiculous. If we let the government dictate one freedom, they will want to dictate everything in your life.

Furthermore, I am convinced that DARE actually works more to indoctrinate kids to drugs than to prevent the usage.

[G27]

So absurd to trouble law-abiding citizens over the self-destructive behavior of others.

Once again we all lose due to a stupid 'war' that cannot be won and has no business being fought.

[mcurrier]

Yeah, that kind of thing makes sense to me, but a gun store? (it is Kentucky so who knows ) that was what threw me off. If it had happened at Walgreens I wouldn't have been so surprised.

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[mcurrier]

Won't be outlawing lithium, then. We have a considerable presence in the middle east to procure it.

Better outlaw them Toyota Prius cars then. Seems like a drug dealers jackpot!

[mcurrier]

This drug is likely one of the worst ones out there. I say decriminalize Mary Jane and focus attention on drugs like meth and cocaine. MJ has never killed anyone, can't OD on it, really doesn't hurt anyone other than a few lazy couch potatoes in their parents basement. I would be all for a minimum stiff sentence for meth on 1st offense. It's crept its way into every town in this country and is destroying families like a cancer through the population.

Unfortunately, MJ is a gateway drug. It only leads to experimentation and addiction to harder drugs down the road. Best policy is not to put anything into your body other than food and oxygen, you'll live longer that way.