issue with FFL and capital view pawn in nashville

[geekitupsum]

got a firearm sent to Capital view and i went to pick it up today and their FFl expired today(or something related they didn't notice until they tried to log into a site to do my background check and it said it was expired) so they weren't able to let me have it! so its just sitting in their shop and they have no clue when the will have it renewed.. a little unhappy about the situation and i don't know what to do at this point.

Any advise? anyone know how long something like this will take?

I'm not downing Capital View at all, they are EXTREMELY nice and like the guys there, i just want my firearm that i ordered.

[Fourtyfive]

Is it paid for ?

[geekitupsum]

Yes the firearm is fully paid for. I purchased it at aimsurplus.com and just had it shipped to them as my FFL

[Oh Shoot]

Wow, that's a new one.

But whether they are nice guys or not, seems to me that if they can't get things straightened out on their FFL PDQ, believe I'd demand they ship it back to retailer and have it resent to another FFL. Of course, now that brings into question if the retailer will pay to send it again.

Hmmm...a rather sticky wicket, I must say.

- OS

[Troutburger]

Couldn't capital log it out to a shop with a valid FFL to complete the transfer?

[geekitupsum]

yep, was hoping to be at the range this weekend.. but looks like this might rain on my parade

[Fourtyfive]

My recommendation also , have it shipped back or see if the shipper will recall. Although when they shipped it the license was good when it was signed for it was illegal ; maybe ?

[geekitupsum]

Wow, that's a new one.

But whether they are nice guys or not, seems to me that if they can't get things straightened out on their FFL PDQ, believe I'd demand they ship it back to retailer and have it resent to another FFL. Of course, now that brings into question if the retailer will pay to send it again.

Hmmm...a rather sticky wicket, I must say.

- OS

Can Capital even ship it if they have an expired ffl?

[Fourtyfive]

As I understand it , no. You might want to call the local ATF and ask them what the options are....it's been a while since i had an FFL.

Edited November 2, 2011 by Threeeighty

[Guest bkelm18]

If I had a license or document that my entire business hinged upon, I'd be damn sure to remember when it expires. No excuse in my opinion. Sorry to hear of your issues. Hopefully it gets resolved.

[Oh Shoot]

Can Capital even ship it if they have an expired ffl?

Wow². Good damn question.

- OS

[dralarms]

That sucks. I know I'll be checking dates on my ffl's license before I have anything else shipped in. The sending ffl should be able to recall it

[Guest aekdbbop]

*edit* just realized the OP is the friend I am talking about.. I am an idiot...

I have a friend who's "new" M91/30 is stuck in-limbo at CVP because of the same problem. He drove up there today to get it and was turned away. Hopefully they get this straightened quick.

He said "the ffl is current but the account they had to do background checks was expired". Makes sense?

FWIW I have used them 5 times in the past with zero problems, but I will be sure to call ahead of time to confirm they are still valid.

[geekitupsum]

I have a friend who's "new" M91/30 is stuck in-limbo at CVP because of the same problem. He drove up there today to get it and was turned away. Hopefully they get this straightened quick.

He said "the ffl is current but the account they had to do background checks was expired". Makes sense?

FWIW I have used them 5 times in the past with zero problems, but I will be sure to call ahead of time to confirm they are still valid.

lol @ aekdbbop

this is me kevin! lol figured my name would give me away "geekitupsum"

[Fourtyfive]

Did they not run the BC before they took your $ ?

[Fourtyfive]

Looks like the only way to loose BC status is by being 45 days behind in payment to TICS.

http://www.tbi.state.tn.us/firearm_check/firearm_docs/FFL_20Guidelines_pdf.pdf

[Garufa]

Did they not run the BC before they took your $ ?

He paid Aim Surplus for the rifle.

[Fourtyfive]

You don't need a BC for a rifle do you ? Wasn't paying attention to what it was.

[3gundave]

CVP forgot to pay their TICS bill. They can pay it over the phone.

[Garufa]

You don't need a BC for a rifle do you ? Wasn't paying attention to what it was.

Yes, you do.

[Fourtyfive]

Yes, you do.

Yup , just read it , aint bought a rifle in quite some time.

[strickj]

Couldn't they just transfer the gun to another FFL?

[Guest Runnfree]

Guys, I just talk to Gayle about this and she ask that I post this for her.

Here's what going on with the FFL...these things expire and the ATF issues a Letter of Authorization so that we continue business while all the renewal inspections and whatnot go on. Usually, the Letter is good for 90 days to give the ATF time to get through all the red tape...that didn't happen in time, so they issued another LOA which was good for 60days, (no idea, why)...NO BIGGIE! Mom is on it and it should be tomorrow when all is fixed.

Thanks for your patience....Ms. Gayle, Capitol View Pawn.

[dralarms]

Guys, I just talk to Gayle about this and she ask that I post this for her.

Here's what going on with the FFL...these things expire and the ATF issues a Letter of Authorization so that we continue business while all the renewal inspections and whatnot go on. Usually, the Letter is good for 90 days to give the ATF time to get through all the red tape...that didn't happen in time, so they issued another LOA which was good for 60days, (no idea, why)...NO BIGGIE! Mom is on it and it should be tomorrow when all is fixed.

Thanks for your patience....Ms. Gayle, Capitol View Pawn.

Sounds like she is on top of it. Another ATF blunder?

[Guest vthokies03]

That make no sense about the letter. IF you have the extension letter, you continue business as normal. The letter would not hold up the background check. Now if you didnt get the letter in time, it would be the same as not having an FFL.