A little something for the liberal neighbors

[mikegideon]

See Mikegideon we can agree on some things. I am a classical liberal according to the dictionary definition- at least my dictionary.

I'm sure we have a lot more common ground. This is real simple... The attack on (my) gun rights is nearly a 100% Liberal agenda. I'm not going to be tolerant of it. I have plenty of other complaints, but the anti-gun thing really chaps my ass. I don't even have to bring the other stuff up.

[Will Carry]

That's what I am talking about. The lack of respect between left and right. The polarization that the media feeds on. It is dividing our country. Only when our country unites and we and our elected representatives start working together, will this country start to make a comeback. Divided we fall.

[Guest MERRILL]

I'm sure we have a lot more common ground. This is real simple... The attack on (my) gun rights is nearly a 100% Liberal agenda. I'm not going to be tolerant of it. I have plenty of other complaints, but the anti-gun thing really chaps my ass. I don't even have to bring the other stuff up.

I can't argue with that. I too am a strong supporter of second amendment as are many liberals. Again I recommend visiting the liberalgunclub.com to see the views of liberal gunnies. Unfortunately you are correct about the antis being nearly 100% liberal, but not nearly 100% of liberals are antis. Edited October 16, 2011 by MERRILL

[Guest GunTroll]

HAHAHA. I love this thread. Long over due.

I don't know what I am. I let no party define me. I let no ideology define me. I let no particular philosophy rule my actions.

Guess that makes me "lost". I like it here. I woke up not long ago really (talking months here) and still have a way to go.

So you liberals don't have cooties is what your saying?

[mikegideon]

Unfortunately you are correct about the antis being nearly 100% liberal, but not nearly 100% of liberals are antis.

I agree. Again, I have a lot of liberal friends. If they don't know anything about guns, and follow the position of their "leaders", then they wind up being anti-gun.

Then, there are a few anti's that have hung out with me for awhile ...

Edited October 16, 2011 by mikegideon

[Guest MERRILL]

Mg, if ignorance were blissful, many liberals would be blisters with regard to firearms. LOL

[Will Carry]

HAHAHA. I love this thread. Long over due.

I don't know what I am. I let no party define me. I let no ideology define me. I let no particular philosophy rule my actions.

Guess that makes me "lost". I like it here. I woke up not long ago really (talking months here) and still have a way to go.

So you liberals don't have cooties is what your saying?

I am with you. I think for myself. Liberals think I'm conservative and conservatives think I'm liberal. I yam what I yam and that's all I yam.

[NextExit]

You might get further if you took the time to have legitimate conversations with those "socialist/communist" lefties rather than have your knee-jerk reaction every time you think one might be around.

I have a liberal friend but the only legitimate conversation I can have with him is about sports and weather. If it's politics or religion then it just degrades into an obscenity laced-name calling tirade (from him ) so we have agreed to disagree and don't even bring those subjects up. (How liberal is he? well, he thinks Obama is too Conservative )

As for the liberal gun club website, I went to their "Our Positions" page and saw all I need to see:

"Private sellers need to be clearly labeled" So the next time I go to a gun show you better have a label that says, "Hi, I'm a private seller."

"Restrict the number of firearms sold by the private seller to less than 30 firearms at any one show." So what? I can't buy 1 gun from 31 different private sellers and walk out of there with 31 guns?? What does this accomplish?

And this:

"It is our belief that while we have the right to keep and bear arms responsibly, when that right begins to encroach on the rights of others it needs to be held in check."

'nuff said...

[mikegideon]

I have a liberal friend but the only legitimate conversation I can have with him is about sports and weather. If it's politics or religion then it just degrades into an obscenity laced-name calling tirade (from him ) so we have agreed to disagree and don't even bring those subjects up. (How liberal is he? well, he thinks Obama is too Conservative )

As for the liberal gun club website, I went to their "Our Positions" page and saw all I need to see:

"Private sellers need to be clearly labeled" So the next time I go to a gun show you better have a label that says, "Hi, I'm a private seller."

"Restrict the number of firearms sold by the private seller to less than 30 firearms at any one show." So what? I can't buy 1 gun from 31 different private sellers and walk out of there with 31 guns?? What does this accomplish?

And this:

"It is our belief that while we have the right to keep and bear arms responsibly, when that right begins to encroach on the rights of others it needs to be held in check."

'nuff said...

Ahhh. "Common sense" gun . I. for one, feel much safer knowing those douchebags are on our side

[Will Carry]

I just looked over the Liberal Gun Club website. It seemed....pretentious? Like...it made me vomit in my mouth and swallow? If I had to choose between the TGO and the LGC? I feel more comfortable with the TGO. I'm not a liberal. You guys and gals are my brothers and sisters.

[mikegideon]

I just looked over the Liberal Gun Club website. It seemed....pretentious? Like...it made me vomit in my mouth and swallow? If I had to choose between the TGO and the LGC? I feel more comfortable with the TGO. I'm not a liberal. You guys and gals are my brothers and sisters.

You are a whole lot nicer than me . I need anger management training, sensitivity training, and more fiber in my diet

[TMF]

Well I think what we have here is the argument of "thinking" liberals and "thinking" conservatives. For example, my family is made up of staunch conservatives which follow all traditional conservative ideals. I don't. I don't think it's bizarre that a liberal could be pro-gun anymore than I think it's bizarre that a conservative could be pro-choice.

I think the issue is that folks like me don't have much interaction with liberals because there isn't much in common there. The only liberals I see are the ones on the TV that want to take away my money, guns, and so on. My in-laws are so extreme liberal that I avoid any topic which may cause me to expose my opinions because I don't feel like debating/justifying everything I believe in.

So if some of the liberals here are offended about some of us having the impression that all liberals are anti-gun try to understand that the only side of liberals we see are the ones who want to take our guns away. Up until the other day I thought pro-gun liberals were rare as a white rhino, but I've seen a few on this thread. More power to you; try to educate your kind about the 2nd Amendment as you can.

[mikegideon]

Well I think what we have here is the argument of "thinking" liberals and "thinking" conservatives. For example, my family is made up of staunch conservatives which follow all traditional conservative ideals. I don't. I don't think it's bizarre that a liberal could be pro-gun anymore than I think it's bizarre that a conservative could be pro-choice.

I think the issue is that folks like me don't have much interaction with liberals because there isn't much in common there. The only liberals I see are the ones on the TV that want to take away my money, guns, and so on. My in-laws are so extreme liberal that I avoid any topic which may cause me to expose my opinions because I don't feel like debating/justifying everything I believe in.

So if some of the liberals here are offended about some of us having the impression that all liberals are anti-gun try to understand that the only side of liberals we see are the ones who want to take our guns away. Up until the other day I thought pro-gun liberals were rare as a white rhino, but I've seen a few on this thread. More power to you; try to educate your kind about the 2nd Amendment as you can.

The devil is sometimes in the details. I know lots of liberals that are just fine with owning "hunting rifles" and shotguns. I know one that's a serious hunter. He just doesn't like handguns, or any other types of weapons. That guy, a pretty good friend, is an anti in my book.

[Mike.357]

not sure how my owning guns encroaches on anyone else's rights

[mikegideon]

not sure how my owning guns encroaches on anyone else's rights

You never know when they will entice you into a killin' spree. Once you get so many guns, all that evil combines into a powerful force. An AR-15 has 20 times as much evil as a "hunting rifle". Handgun evil is somewhere in between, but increases exponentially if it holds more than 10 rounds.

You should already know this stuff

[TMF]

You never know when they will entice you into a killin' spree. Once you get so many guns, all that evil combines into a powerful force. An AR-15 has 20 times as much evil as a "hunting rifle". Handgun evil is somewhere in between, but increases exponentially if it holds more than 10 rounds.

You should already know this stuff

Hahaha, I don't think it's crazy at all to think that an AR 15 could entice you to go on a rampage. I mean, if you talk to your rifle is it crazy to think that it won't talk back to you?

[mikegideon]

Hahaha, I don't think it's crazy at all to think that an AR 15 could entice you to go on a rampage. I mean, if you talk to your rifle is it crazy to think that it won't talk back to you?

Some of mine have names. Am I on the edge?

[Mike.357]

i wish I had one of them high powered assault rifles, maybe one of them would send me over the edge. And I feel you on the ten round clips. My sixteen rounder even scares me.

[mikegideon]

I know what it did to my girlfriend. Gave her a little twitch under her right eye. I had to change the combination on the safe

[Mike.357]

i thought she looked comfortable with a high cap clip.

[mikegideon]

i thought she looked comfortable with a high cap clip.

Yeah. She wasn't flinching at all. She didn't like the shotgun, but that was more cream puff than liberal

[Guest pfries]

Some of mine have names. Am I on the edge?

"over the edge" not on it Mike.... Aim High...

[mikegideon]

"over the edge" not on it Mike.... Aim High...

Well, the leftie chick named hers. I guess we have a real mess on our hands :-)

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

"Restrict the number of firearms sold by the private seller to less than 30 firearms at any one show." So what? I can't buy 1 gun from 31 different private sellers and walk out of there with 31 guns?? What does this accomplish?

This has nothing to do with your ability to purchase 1 gun, 31 guns, or 101 guns. The idea of that particular restriction would be to distinguish between private sellers and firearms dealers. Dealers have certain obligations that are not imposed upon private sellers. The goal is to help create a bright line rule to establish at what point you're "engaged in the business" of selling guns rather than making an "occasional sale, exchange, or purchase." Setting that limit at 30 firearms at a single show seems like a pretty reasonable distinction; if you're offering to sell more than 30 guns at the shows you go to, you certainly look like a dealer to me.

If you can't understand the purpose of the proposal or understand the distinction between trying to keep track of sellers and trying to limit purchasing it's no wonder these sorts of conversations don't tend to end well...

[strickj]

This has nothing to do with your ability to purchase 1 gun, 31 guns, or 101 guns. The idea of that particular restriction would be to distinguish between private sellers and firearms dealers. Dealers have certain obligations that are not imposed upon private sellers. The goal is to help create a bright line rule to establish at what point you're "engaged in the business" of selling guns rather than making an "occasional sale, exchange, or purchase." Setting that limit at 30 firearms at a single show seems like a pretty reasonable distinction; if you're offering to sell more than 30 guns at the shows you go to, you certainly look like a dealer to me.

If you can't understand the purpose of the proposal or understand the distinction between trying to keep track of sellers and trying to limit purchasing it's no wonder these sorts of conversations don't tend to end well...

I can understand that completely. What I had a problem with was this hypercritical statement:

We do not believe that firearms should be outlawed solely on appearance but on function (e.g., “Assault Style Weapons”)

How does my assault weapons (AR15,tact'd out 500a or my SKS) function any differently then any-other auto loading rifle?

If they do indeed function the same, then wouldn't it just be the looks that they want banned? .

And then there was the nonsense about the ASB. Especially this:

While they don’t think continuing the ban would have resulted in significant drops in crime, they do argue that it would result in fewer victims

What genius thought that up? How can they say "crime will not go down with banning clips and AW" but go on to say "there will be fewer victims"?

And just for the record in case you didn't already know... I am one of the more liberal members here on this board (methinks everyone here knows that )

That said, Liberalgunclub can suck smurf balls before I'll ever grace their site again.