California Open Carry Banned

[JAB]

Oh! I thought he might have in mind something like a "final solution".

I would have no intention of taking any laws away regarding OC in TN or AL. I just wish people would consider not open carrying in downtown. I would prefer that people concealed carry in downtown. Years ago, I've actually had experience OCing "downtown" (on a rather regular basis). I just don't see a need in it - stirs too many folks up. But, other than that, OC is fine with me.

That's my view and I'm allowed to have it, I think. For those who need assurances on my political views, let's just say that I'm to the "right" of center.

What you seem to not be understanding, within the context of this thread, is that getting a permit to legally carry in California is, apparently, danged near impossible. However, before passage of this law it was legal to OPENLY carry an UNLOADED handgun. For those who did not have the type of political connections/money necessary to get a permit to carry, their ONLY option was to OPENLY carry an UNLOADED firearm. Thanks to legislation that was pushed and signed by Governor Ronald Reagan back in the 1960s, the citizens of California had been stripped of the right to carry loaded firearms without a permit. Getting a California carry permit seems to be, as you might imagine, a whole lot harder than getting a carry permit in TN. Simply getting a permit and carrying concealed is not a viable option for most Californians. Therefore, in the context of this thread, your point is moot.

There were some gun rights supporters who were OPENLY carrying UNLOADED firearms - in accordance with the law (and the only option most of them had for legal carry) - in order to show support for expanding gun rights, perhaps including making it a bit easier for an honest citizen to obtain a carry permit. Openly carrying their unloaded firearms in the woods where no one would see them would kind of defeat the purpose in that case - they needed to do so in populated areas in order for their message to be received. Now it seems that the nanny state of California has decided that even OPENLY carrying an UNLOADED firearm is too dangerous to remain an option for the non-spineless, non-jellyfish citizens of their state.

Edited October 26, 2011 by JAB

[Guest bkelm18]

What you seem to not be understanding, within the context of this thread, is that getting a permit to legally carry in California is, apparently, danged near impossible. However, before passage of this law it was legal to OPENLY carry an UNLOADED handgun. For those who did not have the type of political connections/money necessary to get a permit to carry, their ONLY option was to OPENLY carry an UNLOADED firearm. Thanks to legislation that was pushed and signed by Governor Ronald Reagan, the citizens of California had been stripped of the right to openly carry loaded firearms without a permit. Getting said permit seems to be, as you might imagine, a whole lot harder than getting a carry permit in TN. Simply getting a permit and carrying concealed is not a viable option for most Californians. Therefore, in the context of this thread, your point is moot.

There were some gun rights supporters who were OPENLY carrying UNLOADED firearms - in accordance with the law (and the only option most of them had for legal carry) - in order to show support for expanding gun rights, perhaps including making it a bit easier for an honest citizen to obtain a carry permit. Now it seems that the nanny state of California has decided that even OPENLY carrying an UNLOADED firearm is too dangerous to remain an option for the non-spineless, non-jellyfish citizens of their state.

In CA is varies by county. In some counties it is rather easy to obtain a permit once you just through the hoops. Others it is impossible if you can't demonstrate a true need to have a permit (which translates to having lots of $$ or having some political pull).

[Oh Shoot]

2A activists are now beginning to organize open carry of (unloaded) long gun events; which will probably be addressed by another law to prevent that, too.

But they hope that all this will lead to getting the carry permit law changed to "shall issue", probably the best they can hope for.

- OS