help what is this

[chuck]

Im trying to figure out what is in this can without opening in case its worth something anybody got any ideas thanks ?

[zapfbroad]

800 rounds of 7.62mm pkg in 1950. 16 boxes of 50 cartridges. Roughly translated from rusty french.

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[Jonnin]

second rough literal translation

800 cartridges of ball ordinance (ammo) of 7.62 1950 for carbine something something 16 boxes of 50 etc.

[zapfbroad]

Probably for the M1 carbine. Possibly corrosive cartridges. People pick this up in yard sales, flea markets periodically. I don't know that it has any worth except to collectors. Good luck. I wouldn't shoot it if I had something to shoot it with.

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[DaveTN]

I’m guessing 7, 62 Kurz (30 Carbine), brass case.

[Mike.357]

why not shoot it? it is not a big deal to clean for corrosive ammo.

[Caster]

Ohh you people and your corrosive phobias

You own an M1 carbine? Shoot them suckers! OR, sell them to someone who will.

[I_Like_Pie]

why not shoot it? it is not a big deal to clean for corrosive ammo.

Yeah...no kidding. It isn't milk. shoot em.

[Photoguy67]

I am not saying I am right, probably not, but I saw a can a lot like that at the gun show that had a sign saying 7.62x54r.

[Oh Shoot]

I am not saying I am right, probably not, but I saw a can a lot like that at the gun show that had a sign saying 7.62x54r.

Doubt if the French military ever had any reason to produce rounds for the Mosin Nagant. Certainly not after NATO anyway.

Maybe it's actually US made for the French, so it's in Frog.

- OS

Edited September 18, 2011 by OhShoot

[Mike.357]

to hell with the conjecture, open it up and show us whats in it

[Garufa]

It is French .30 Carbine ammo made in 1962. Possibly corrosive (btw, the US NEVER made corrosive .30 carb ammo). Probably has some collector value as is.

[gregintenn]

Send it to me and I'll tell you how it shoots.

[Lumber_Jack]

7.62x33 aka .30 Carbine, just a guess .

See my signature for validity of my posts.

Edited September 18, 2011 by Lumber_Jack

[Garufa]

Again, it is French .30 carbine ammo and corrosive. Do not use it unless you want to ruin an M1 Carbine. The gas system of that rifle was never designed for corrosive ammo. You can't even disassemble the piston without a special tool and I believe it is also staked in place.

Just Google French 30 carbine ammo.

[Mike.357]

good info John

[Lumber_Jack]

Again, it is French .30 carbine ammo and corrosive. Do not use it unless you want to ruin an M1 Carbine. The gas system of that rifle was never designed for corrosive ammo. You can't even disassemble the piston without a special tool and I believe it is also staked in place.

Just Google French 30 carbine ammo.

What was it's original platform? M1 Carbine? Dis they just ruin their guns? We need a history lesson

[SonnyCrockett]

my Mosin uses corrosive ammo,its just the primers really I think

and yes its filthy after 20 rounds but I clean it and she comes up fine

[Mike.357]

big difference between a M1 carbine and a Mosin in regards to cleaning.

until John mentioned it I forgot about not being able to disassemble the carbine's gas system. Though I suppose it could still be cleaned of corrosive in some manner.

Jack axes a good question too.

[DaveTN]

What was it's original platform? M1 Carbine? Dis they just ruin their guns? We need a history lesson

They cleaned their weapons.

The U.S. Military didn’t have non-corrosive ammo until 1947. Most of the WWII weapons survived because they were cleaned.

Corrosive ammo has a longer shelf life than non-corrosive.

Many countries are still making corrosive ammo today, and that ammo is being marked non-corrosive and sold in the U.S.

It wasn’t until recently that it became popular with a few to shoot weapons to failure without ever cleaning them, and then post about it on the internet, and of course blame it on something other than not properly maintaining their weapons.

People are going to justify anything to shoot cheap ammo. Look at how many shoot steel case lacquer coated ammo and refuse to acknowledge that it damages the rifle. Why? Because it’s cheap.

I wouldn’t shoot corrosive ammo in my Garand or Remington 700, but I wouldn’t be afraid to shoot in in an AK or SKS because of my cleaning practices. Steel case I wouldn’t shoot in anything.

[1gewehr]

It's ammo for the US M1 .30 carbine. We gave a boatload to the French (and many other folks) after WWII. They used them in Indochina (Vietnam) until they got kicked out. Also used in Algeria and issued to French police units during the 1950's.

The ammo is fine. It goes 'bang', operates the rifle properly, and is reasonably accurate. I've fired a bunch as it was the cheapest .30 carbine ammo in the mid-80's. It is Berdan primed, so not easily relaodable, and as noted above, it has corrosive primers. I never noticed a problem because of that, but I do clean my rifles. Simply by cleaning the bore on a carbine, some of the bore cleaner will get into the gas system. Older bore cleaner would counteract the corrosive salts. Newer bore cleaner does not. Run a patch or two liberally drenched in Windex through the carbine bore and it will be fine. Removing the gas piston for thorough cleaning is a good idea as well. Carbine gas piston wrenches are inexpensive, and a good investment for anyone owning an M1 carbine.