New Neck Knife

[Lumber_Jack]

So I stopped by Smokey Mountain Knife Works today and decided to pick up my first neck knife. I bought the Cold Steel - mini tac Kiridashi. I bought this primarily as a backup self defense knife. I love the size and shape of the blade for it's intended purpose. It would be a handy utility blade if one so desired. The scales are a nice G10 with a nice shape to allow a really secure grip. I'm not sure how comfortable the chain is gonna be in the long run, but if necessary I can make a replacement out of 550 cord.

Updates will come with more use

[Erik88]

I really like the looks of that. From the picture it looks like it would be hard to get a good grip on the handle when it's in the sheath. Pretty easy to draw?

[BigJim]

Cool

[Lumber_Jack]

I really like the looks of that. From the picture it looks like it would be hard to get a good grip on the handle when it's in the sheath. Pretty easy to draw?

It's not great, but it's not bad either. I can get three fingers (pinky thru middle) and draw with index ready to grasp the loop. It comes free with a firm swift pull, just like a similar style gun holster. Its kind of hard to re-sheath because the point can catch inside the sheath. But that's not too much of an issue.

[Oh Shoot]

I have the Skinner model. Among my top 5 necker favs. CS really did a nice job with these.

Yeah, Erik, they come out of sheath pretty nicely, they did a nice job on the sheaths for combo of retention/draw.

Neil, I prefer chains, as they'll break before strangling you, but they tend to grab chest hair sometimes too.

- OS

[Lumber_Jack]

Neil, I prefer chains, as they'll break before strangling you, but they tend to grab chest hair sometimes too.

- OS

Makes sense about not being strangled. And yes I have noticed the chest hair pulling. Maybe after a while they'll all be pulled out

[Guest Broomhead]

You can pick up a break-away release to connect the ends of the 550 cord. Chains catch the hairs on the back of my neck and my chest hairs also, I can't stand them. I'm digging all those blade designs, I may have to keep an eye out for one. Do you mind posting what you paid?

[Oh Shoot]

You can pick up a break-away release to connect the ends of the 550 cord. ...

That connector sometimes isn't strong enough to bear the force needed to get knife out of sheath, though. Depends on sheath -- I certainly prefer a stout hold to losing the knife. But I believe would probably work for this one.

The dirty little secret about neck knives is that the sheath is pretty much as important as the knife. Must hold completely reliably, but still allow fairly easy withdrawal.

Both the CS Mini Tac and the CS Counter Tac II I have are quite good both ways.

The necker I settled in for now is actually a "lesser" brand, the Meyerco Law Dog, and though the sheath was okay, I could actually jiggle knife from sheath with a few big up and down jumps. I had a Kydex custom made for it, cost about 5 bucks more than the knife itself, takes a pretty firm jerk to get it out now, but that's what I prefer.

Oh, the Mini Tacs are generally in the low $30s including shipping, best price, Amazon, eBay, etc.

Example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cold-Steel-New-Mini-Tac-Kiridashi-Knife-49HK-/170694070123?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27be28cf6b

- OS

Edited September 17, 2011 by OhShoot

[Guest Broomhead]

Thanks OS.

[Lumber_Jack]

Yeah I paid $34.99+tax at SMKW. I figured I could get it a few dollars cheaper online, but the convenience of "take it home now" won out.

[Guest msparks]

Nice looking knife. Man it looks pointy!

As far as the chain goes, you can take the guts out of some 550 cord then thread the chain through it. We did this all the time in Army.

[Lumber_Jack]

Nice looking knife. Man it looks pointy!

As far as the chain goes, you can take the guts out of some 550 cord then thread the chain through it. We did this all the time in Army.

Now that's a great idea, thanks man! And yes it's very pointy, I'm sure I'll bleed from this at some point in time. But as a self defense blade I want maximum stabbing ability.

[Guest msparks]

Now that's a great idea, thanks man! And yes it's very pointy, I'm sure I'll bleed from this at some point in time. But as a self defense blade I want maximum stabbing ability.

It's probably illegal to carry a knife with the "intent to go armed". You might want to say: "I need a pointy knife to clean your finger nails or to pull splinters easily."

--Just saying.

Glad I could help with the info.

[Lumber_Jack]

It's probably illegal to carry a knife with the "intent to go armed". You might want to say: "I need a pointy knife to clean your finger nails or to pull splinters easily."

--Just saying.

Glad I could help with the info.

I thought that only applied to blades over 4" and switchblades

My intent to go armed might be given away by the .45 I carry as it will be empty by the time the knife comes into play.

Thank for the heads up, I'll check my verbiage

Edited September 19, 2011 by Lumber_Jack

[Oh Shoot]

...As far as the chain goes, you can take the guts out of some 550 cord then thread the chain through it. ...

Why not just nix the chain altogether then?

- OS

[Guest msparks]

Why not just nix the chain altogether then?

- OS

Ask this boy,

Boy, 5, nearly strangled by school ID tag on playground

http://www.wkrn.com/story/15482828/boy-5-nearly-strangled-by-school-id-tag-on-playground

[Guest msparks]

I thought that only applied to blades over 4" and switchblades

My intent to go armed might be given away by the .45 I carry as it will be empty by the time the knife comes into play.

Thank for the heads up, I'll check my verbiage

as far as the pistol goes, You have a license for that. Besides that, anything you have with the intent to go armed, hammer, box cutter, brick etc... is probably illegal.

[Oh Shoot]

Ask this boy,

Boy, 5, nearly strangled by school ID tag on playground

Boy, 5, nearly strangled by school ID tag on playground - WKRN, Nashville, Tennessee News, Weather and Sports |

Somehow I'm still not very worried.

I've even carried pistol in small of back, despite the common knowledge that if you fall on your ass, you'll completely crush every vertebra between coccyx and skull.

- OS

[Lumber_Jack]

I've read a lot of people talking about carrying knives as back up self defense. I have never heard an argument for "going Armed". OS what's your take on this?

[Guest bkelm18]

Intent to go armed only applies to knives over 4":

39-17-1307. Unlawful carrying or possession of a weapon.

(a) (1) A person commits an offense who carries with the intent to go armed a firearm, a knife with a blade length exceeding four inches (4''), or a club.

[Oh Shoot]

I've read a lot of people talking about carrying knives as back up self defense. I have never heard an argument for "going Armed". OS what's your take on this?

Well, there is really no definition of "going armed" in TCA that I have ever found.

The only charge is Unlawful Carrying or Possession of a Weapon", which includes the term "intent to go armed" within it. My take is that the only way to "go armed" with a knife is as defined in the statutes, which is carry of a knife over 4", without reasonable evidence that the carry was "incident to lawful hunting, trapping, fishing, camping, sport shooting or other lawful activity". I'd further posit that the "other lawful activity" is a little catchall for logically innocent behavior like carrying a set of chef's knives to a cookout, or carrying a bowie you just bought from store to home, etc.

Point is, can't see any circumstances that an otherwise legal knife of 4" or under could possibly get you a charge (or at least a conviction, given even a still wet behind the ears public defender) of 39-17-1307.

But of course you could certainly be charged and convicted under a deadly force statute by using even a Case Peanut. Certainly a knife of any length can still be deemed a "deadly weapon". Even threatening someone with that Case Peanut could get one an Aggravated Assault charge.

So, I've even heard lawyers argue that the term "intent to go armed" is in some cases defined by WHAT is carried (loaded gun, knife over 4", extensible baton, sap), and in others by WHY/WHEN something is carried (just why do you have that baseball bat, tire iron, ball peen hammer where and when you have it?).

In the case of a knife, it's both WHAT (knife over 4") and WHY/WHEN (that same knife over 4"). But I just can't see how TCA allows for a charge of Illegal Possession or Carry for a knife of 4" or less (except for switchblade, which is covered by a different statute).

- OS

[Lumber_Jack]

The knife guru speaks.

[Oh Shoot]

The knife guru speaks.

Forgot my standard disclaimer:

I can't spring fer yer bail.

- OS

[BigK]

I wanted a Cold Steel kneck knife, but was too cheap to come off the bucks. I settled for this little guy and it has sharpened up quite well for under $20. Of course the first thing I had to do was doll it up with 550 cord and a compass (in case I ever get lost on the way back from the grocery story).

First thing I did was heat the kydex up a little bit and press it with the knife inside. I didn't wanna take a chance of it falling out and that helped. Of course that meant the breakaway connector didn't work as OhShoot said. It came un-snapped when I yanked the knife out.

Not sure if you can tell in the photo, but the black paracord around the lanyard handle can be cinched up pretty tight against the handle. This acts a little like extending the handle, allowing me to wrap all 4 fingers around the handle and paracord together.

My wife says I go over the top with paracord...is there a 12-step program?

[Oh Shoot]

....My wife says I go over the top with paracord...is there a 12-step program?

Programs involving guns and knives are almost never effective, once the sickness is full-blown.

I believe paracord mania is a special subset listed in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, and is considered completely untreatable.

Nice necker combo, I must say.

- OS