SHTF - What are you going to do with your sh*! ? Outhouse anyone?

[Deerbnb]

i have a septic system, so i will go 50yds to the creek and use a bucket to fill the toilet tank, and flush

yep, only I have to go about 100 yards to the creek

[ted]

hope you don't need the water later out of the creek to drink hehehe

[G27]

In a long term event are you gonna dig a new hole every day?

In a long term event I'll build a permanent outhouse.

[zapfbroad]

Wage war on convertibles?? But no really, 5gal bucket with liners..bury em at least 2ft down to prevent animals gettin to it & at least 50ft from water source

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[DAdams]

That is a major issue. I tried one of these on a camping trip last year and it worked quite will, not a great long term solution but acceptable. Biodegradable bags (or not) and cat litter. This effectively handled (not literally) two person solid wast for three days before the bag was changed out and buried. I bought the bio bags for camping.

Amazon.com: Reliance Products Fold-To-Go Collapsible Portable Toilet: Sports & Outdoors

Reliance fold to go toilet. It handled my 190 lb ass. A little low for a 6 footer but it beat the heck out of hanging over a downed

tree.

I'm cosidering a second one. I now have 40lbs of cat litter but need about 5 times that. We just got another 100 rolls of TP at Sam's on the last run.

Lime sounds like a good idea too.

[DAdams]

That is a major issue. I tried one of these on a camping trip last year and it worked quite will, not a great long term solution but acceptable. Biodegradable bags (or not) and cat litter. This effectively handled (not literally) two persons solid waste for three days before the bag was changed out and buried. I bought the bio bags for camping. It handled my 190 lb ass. A little low for a 6 footer but it beat the heck out of hanging over a downed tree. I'm cosidering a second one. I now have 40lbs of cat litter but need about 5 times that. We just got another 100 rolls of TP at Sam's on the last run. Lime sounds like a good idea too.

You could actually use this same concept in your standard home toilet in a pinch.

Edited October 26, 2011 by DAdams

[DAdams]

http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Collapsible-Portable-Toilet/dp/B0024OAQ3Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319672109&sr=8-1

Reliance Utra Go as seen above.

[mav]

What are you going to do about disposing of toliet paper? Burn it? If you are like normal people, you could build up a large pile of used toliet paper rather quickly, unless you are like Sheryl Crow and others who only use one square at a time. I guess you could always rig up a poor man's bidet with a garden hose.

[Mason]

In the long term what will you wipe your ass with when the TP runs out. Everyone always says leaves but evergreen needles would make for a long winter. My first thought was the neighbors dog. That rotty is almost as big as me though.

[Guest sqlightning]

In the long term what will you wipe your ass with when the TP runs out. Everyone always says leaves but evergreen needles would make for a long winter. My first thought was the neighbors dog. That rotty is almost as big as me though.

this when they are available Stachys byzantina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and a pine cone (going with the grain) in the winter

[DannyP]

Yep, just need a half barrel, some fuel and a stick to stir it, i've burnt my fair share of ****

You can burn it. Just be ready for the stench of stenches.

[enfield]

Hydrated lime, the white powder (calcium hydroxide), not agricultural lime, the gray pellets (calcium carbonate).

At least that's what my grandparents provided a bucket of in their outhouse. That and wasps. And a Sears catalog.

[tnhawk]

..... And a Sears catalog.

I haven't seen a Sears catalog in years. The paper used for advertising is worthless. May have to put those NRA magazines to use.

[enfield]

It'd be a good use for back issues of The Tennessean and a few other papers.

Those slick pages out of the Sears catalog were dangerous anyhow -- sprained my elbow once.

[East_TN_Patriot]

I think people are missing the point of the OP's original question. If the infrastructure collapses, there will not be any sort of viable sewage treatment available so the toilet will be useless. No amount of filling the tank with creek water and flushing will solve this (unless you are on a septic and even then, you'll have to figure out how to keep it maintained). If it's bad, the last thing you'll want to do is waste any water at all on dealing with your body waste. Your camping porta-john won't hold up forever and you will run out of liners eventually plus there won't be a WalMart to grab more. I interpreted the question as one of a more long-term scenario. Even in the short-term, toting around bags of waste and figuring out what to do with it will get to be a pain in short order.

It seems that the question is one of short-term vs. long-term and how bad the critical infrastructure in society has collapsed. I think for long-term needs, the outhouse is the best option if you have a place to put it. I try to consider how our ancestors dealt with these problems and that's the route they chose. It's simple, doesn't require any other action than to keep the building up, and does the job. Convenience is secondary in a SHTF situation, but it's always a nice thing. My suspicion is that in a real SHTF scenario, the conveniences people will really be focused on will be related to shelter, warmth, food storage and prep, and water. I know that taking a convenient and comfy dump will be lower on my list of concerns.

[mcurrier]

Don't forget to keep an appropriate supply of paper stockpiled (at least enough for a year).

The most important part!

[Spiffy]

Stock Pond + 5 gallon bucket of water...... poop and pour.

[MattCary]

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[oldogy]

Well, since this old thread has been revived, I'll put the post hole digger on the Deere and punch a four feet deep hole. When that hole is full, I'll punch another. Big advantage to living in the country with no close neighbors. Think I have my ducks in a row on most all this SHTF stuff but it helps to keep running the plans.

oldogy

[Trekbike]

I'll put the post hole digger on the Deere and punch a four feet deep hole. When that hole is full, I'll punch another.

Be sure to have a manual hole digger on hand when the diesel runs out.

[Dolomite_supafly]

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