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Guest bkelm18
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And if the gun hadn't been a toy and he shot someone they'd be crying why didn't the police stop him. Can't please everybody.

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several calls about a man seen walking around with a rifle. Witnesses told the station that at one point the man aimed the rifle at a neighborhood dog

Note, several people reported and called officers. Something was going on to concern more then one person to call in.

Even if it had an orange tip, an officer can not always go by that as any one can paint a real gun to try and confuse an officer and the officers know this. I am not going to place blame here. I was not there.

If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck....

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The police only injured him, the hospital killed him.

Kinda like an amusement park. People don't don't die at the park, the injured are removed by paramedics where they was pronounced dead offsite?

I think I want to leave in my living will to never by pronounced that way I can live for ever and cheat death.

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The last mentally deficient person carrying a rifle with an orange tip on it ended up causing quite a stink here in Tennessee.

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TGO David, your signature quote is one of the best I have seen in a long dam time. I am going to steal that for my google plus site.

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It's a shame when anyone is killed that turned out not to be a threat but sometimes, unfortunate things happen...I don't see anyone being "at fault" here.

From one Robert to another, I have to agree. I would hate to be the cop that pulled the trigger. He's going to spend his whole life knowing he took the life of a harmless man.

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From one Robert to another, I have to agree. I would hate to be the cop that pulled the trigger. He's going to spend his whole life knowing he took the life of a harmless man.

I dunno... maybe I'm just an ******* but I think I could sleep pretty easily given the way the circumstances were described. The family of the deceased seems pretty upset about the police having shot the guy walking around with a rifle, but none of them were concerned or involved enough with him to prevent him from walking around with a toy rifle to begin with?

I hate what our society has become. No one accepts fault anymore, they just want to foist it off on the police/government/someone-else. Mentally deficient or not, dude should not have been walking around with a toy rifle, pointing it at other people and other objects. WTF were the police supposed to do? Let him pull the trigger and find out of it was a toy or not?

Nice shot, officer. You went home alive.

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I dunno... maybe I'm just an ******* but I think I could sleep pretty easily given the way the circumstances were described. The family of the deceased seems pretty upset about the police having shot the guy walking around with a rifle, but none of them were concerned or involved enough with him to prevent him from walking around with a toy rifle to begin with?

I hate what our society has become. No one accepts fault anymore, they just want to foist it off on the police/government/someone-else. Mentally deficient or not, dude should not have been walking around with a toy rifle, pointing it at other people and other objects. WTF were the police supposed to do? Let him pull the trigger and find out of it was a toy or not?

Nice shot, officer. You went home alive.

Don't get me wrong. There's a 99% chance that had I been in the same situation I would have done the same thing. You have protect you and yours first. It's why we all carry, isn't it? But then to come to find out the guy didn't have the mental capacity to understand what he was doing would definitely make me feel bad for having to take him out. In short, good shoot, bad outcome.

I agree with David. He should have been monitored by his family. Someone had to be negligent to allow him to walk alone with a gun, toy or not.

On the surface I agree wholly with this. But it wasn't clear where he got the toy gun from the article. I kind of wonder what his mental abilities were with him walking around alone in the first place. He may have been mostly functional but unable to handle situations where stress levels reached this kind of level. I guess if he shouldn't have been out in public alone the family will have to live with that as well.

Guest bkelm18
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There was an instance in Oak Ridge I think last year where the police shot and killed a man wielding a knife after he lunged at an officer. Turns out the man had some serious mental issues. Of course there was a huge uproar about it.

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There was an instance in Oak Ridge I think last year where the police shot and killed a man wielding a knife after he lunged at an officer. Turns out the man had some serious mental issues. Of course there was a huge uproar about it.

I can see why. After the guy lunged and before the police pulled the trigger they should have done an in-depth background investigation to make sure the guy didn't have issues.

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I can see why. After the guy lunged and before the police pulled the trigger they should have done an in-depth background investigation to make sure the guy didn't have issues.

Oh of course. If I recall correctly the officers just didn't have time to deploy any non-lethal methods, or maybe they did and didn't work. Anyway I can't remember. I think the main point of contention was why the officers didn't shoot to wound or shoot the knife out of his hand or something like that. It got pretty ridiculous before I gave up following it.

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There was an instance in Oak Ridge I think last year where the police shot and killed a man wielding a knife after he lunged at an officer. Turns out the man had some serious mental issues. Of course there was a huge uproar about it.

Sounds like the one here in Memphis. Family calls MPD because they can't control him and he's got a butcher knife. After spray and bean bags failed he cut an officer's jacket, lunged again and then gained some lead weight. Family bitched. No one cared. Right people went home.

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