Open Carry triggers school lock-down -- Police say HCP holder did nothing wrong

[mikegideon]

I don’t own a Glock. As I’ve said before I wouldn’t walk across the street to get a Glock for free; if I had to keep it.

I know you don't. Just adding to your comments to Kirko.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

I know you don't. Just adding to your comments to Kirko.

My "baby Glock" holds 16 rounds. Enough for me.

[mikegideon]

My "baby Glock" holds 16 rounds. Enough for me.

That's cheating

[Guest bkelm18]

Again, you people should be ashamed of yourselves. You add to the story because and condemn one of your own. Again, this is the same thing the anti-gun people do.

Welcome to planet earth.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

That's cheating

[Guest kirkosaurus]

As usual the OC thread has been reduced to name calling by someone that open carries and got all butt hurt. Man the bottom line is that TN allows open carry (for now). So put on your wife beater T-shirt, blouse your pants into your boots, strap on your Glock in your holster with the leg tie down and head to the mall.

And another point I have to make, Dave. You've already formed your opinion of me. You seem to think I am one of those ninja mall OC'ers. Not sure why you have this bias but if you look at any of the OC threads I've commented on you would know that's not how I am. I think there is a time for CC and a time for OC. I ALWAYS CC and sometimes OC (see if you can figure that one out. ). I have no problem with someone not wanting to OC. I don't think everyone should. If you're not comfortable with it, don't do it. There are tons of reasons to OC and tons of reasons to CC.

If this guy was OC'ing into an active school zone, cutting through school property or purposely trying to scare children by OC then I say yes, that is not a good idea. That would be stupid.

But was the guy just exercising on his street on a hot summer morning in his neighborhood that happens to be near a school because he has maybe been a target of crime or has dealt with stray dogs (there are many around here) and wants to protect himself because he just had shoulder surgery and is vulnerable? Maybe.

But making up stuff about the story, embellishing on it just because of bias against open carry is totally uncalled for and doesn't help the pro-gun cause.

[hornett22]

And where is your proof of this? Is this just more "emotional conjecture"???

And just who is being persecuted here??? Talk about "emotional conjecture"!

What seems "obvious" is that you are presenting opinion to bolster your opinion.

All those "benefits" to open carry that you claim above have been claimed before and generally with as little objective evidence to support the claims as you've offered here. Without evidence to support them, they are just that, claims...claims and opinions and wishful thinking that serve to support your position.

No one in this thread has said that no one should ever open carry or that open carry is "bad" or that open carry is "wrong" or shouldn't be done - all I've said and all most of us have said is that you should do so with discretion and proposing discretion does NOT make someone "anti OC".

Why proposing discretion causes such consternation among some folks is .

I'm sure anyone it offended was already anti OC and has been for years. Seeing someone OCing isn't going to instantly convert them.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

I'm sure anyone it offended was already anti OC and has been for years. Seeing someone OCing isn't going to instantly convert them.

I agree to an extent. Some people are just so hard headed no matter what evidence you give them they will never use logic to come to a proper conclusion.

[DaveTN]

Some people are just so hard headed no matter what evidence you give them they will never use logic to come to a proper conclusion.

Really?

[RobertNashville]

Seriously dude...all you anti-OC bigots have made up scenerios (as pointed out in my previous post) then bascially convicted and fried a fellow gun owner. Shame on you!

No...seriously, "Dude"...shame on you.

From the moment you start name-calling two things happen....

1. You show the lack of any real foundation for your position, and

2. Nothing else you have to say on the subject deserves to be read.

Dude, it has been pointed out to you time and time again but you refuse to look at the facts. You are so anti-OC that you are unwilling to even look into it...

Edited September 10, 2011 by RobertNashville

[mikegideon]

[Erik88]

as always, DaveTN steps up to show his true colors. But it's ok because he is always sure to add that extra in there. That way his comments don't seem as pompous as they really are.

Isn't that right Dave

[RobertNashville]

I don’t own a Glock. As I’ve said before I wouldn’t walk across the street to get a Glock for free; if I had to keep it.

Oh boy!!!! Now we can turn this into a "Glock" vs "1911" thread; we haven't had one of those in a while.

Thanks, Dave!!!

Once we are done with that, we can argue about stopping power between 9MM, 40S&W, 10MM, 3.57SIG and 45ACP; of course, real firearm enthusiasts would never carry a wimpy 9MM or 40S&W but I suppose we need to include them just to be fair.

Edited September 10, 2011 by RobertNashville

[Guest kirkosaurus]

From the moment you start name-calling two things happen....

Not name calling. Pointing you to a link on this topic (hence the underlined link on the word "anti-OC bigot"). Did you read the blog at the link? Don't get all "butt hurt" as DaveTN would call it.

[RobertNashville]

Not name calling. Pointing you to a link on this topic (hence the underlined link on the word "anti-OC bigot"). Did you read the blog at the link? Don't get all "butt hurt" as DaveTN would call it.

My reply since you apparently missed it the first time...

From the moment you start name-calling two things happen....

1. You show the lack of any real foundation for your position, and

2. Nothing else you have to say on the subject deserves to be read.

Edited September 10, 2011 by RobertNashville

[Guest kirkosaurus]

And acting stupidly...openly carrying without regard to where you are/when you are/who will see you is what causes school lockdowns and previously "un-posted" properties to be posted against carrying at all - it harms the entire HCP community.

This comment is an insight to what you believe. I think too many gun owners think in these terms. Do you think we should just promote HCP only or carry and 2A rights in general? I for one think we should have constitutional carry here in TN. I'd be curious to know how many people are for constitutional carry and not promoting being in a super-uber-secret-concealed-carry-club.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

My reply since you apparently missed it the first time...

Nice comeback! You must be proud of your communication skills!

Edited September 10, 2011 by kirkosaurus

[RobertNashville]

Nice comeback! You must be proud of your communication skills!

Humm...apparently I have been unclear.

You have on several occasions in this thread, attacked people (including me) personally with name-calling (although you don't seem to understand that but, so be it).

Since you've chosen to take that route anything further you have to say is immaterial.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

You have on several occasions in this thread, attacked people (including me) personally with name-calling (although you don't seem to understand that but, so be it).

Attacked?

Wahhhh!!!!!!

Since you've chosen to take that route anything further you have to say is immaterial.

Then why do you keep commenting on it?

Time to take your ball and go home?

Edited September 10, 2011 by kirkosaurus

[DaveTN]

I for one think we should have constitutional carry here in TN. I'd be curious to know how many people are for constitutional carry and not promoting being in a super-uber-secret-concealed-carry-club.

I think all of us here are for Constitutional carry. I know I would like to see Tennessee become the fifth state to do it.

However, until that happens it is a crime for a citizen to carry a gun in this state without buying the privilege.

Being stupid about Open Carry can cost you that privilege even if what you are doing is legal. One HCP holder thought open carrying an AK47 pistol in Radnor Park was a good idea.

He said he did it to prove a point. The point he proved was that an HCP is a privilege; and his was revoked.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

I think all of us here are for Constitutional carry. I know I would like to see Tennessee become the fifth state to do it.

However, until that happens it is a crime for a citizen to carry a gun in this state without buying the privilege.

Being stupid about Open Carry can cost you that privilege even if what you are doing is legal. One HCP holder thought open carrying an AK47 pistol in Radnor Park was a good idea.

He said he did it to prove a point. The point he proved was that an HCP is a privilege; and his was revoked.

Well Dave, I'm glad to know this about you.

I agree, OC'ing just to prove a point and purposely causing problems is not a good idea. I've never agreed with anything kwik did.

[RobertNashville]

Then why do you keep commenting on it?

Time to take your ball and go home?

Because you haven't gotten the point...you didn't get it February and you still don't get it.

Edited September 10, 2011 by RobertNashville

[Guest kirkosaurus]

Because you haven't gotten the point.

What point?

[mikegideon]

Food Fight!

[RobertNashville]

Food Fight!

No Mike, I don't waste good food; especially by throwing it against a concrete wall.