Whats wrong in this pic ?

[JG55]

[mav]

I don't know the context behind this pic, but it doesn't seem like he ever knows what to do. At least he didn't bow.

[zapfbroad]

im sure in the midst of what appears to be a formation for the pledge of allegiance he had a fit of tendonitis from all that golfing

[Guest bkelm18]

Wow. Criticizing him over his choice of saluting rather than placing his hand on his heart. Definitely a slow news day. You don't even know the context of the photo. What if he was returning a salute? What about that guy to the left. That bastard. If he's military, he should be saluting. If not, he should take his hat off. Man that scum.

[JG55]

Is that a a salute?

[monkeylizard]

nah. He's picking his nose with his thumb. It's the 2nd most popular digit to use.

[MattCary]

It is severely back lit.

[Caster]

[Links2k]

It served its purpose to create internet outrage over nothing. Obama is lame, but at least he had enough sense to go and pay his respects to our brothers.

[Guest HvyMtl]

Yeah, I believe this is a (poor) picture of O and staff, honoring the fallen soldiers and sailors lost in the Chinook Helicopter shoot down.

OP, way to POLITICIZE something that should NEVER be political.

And Caster, your use of a RIGHT WING leader to compare to a LEFT WING leader - is fail.

If you want to troll it correctly, use Mao, or Stalin, or Lenin, or even Kim Il-sung.

Edited August 10, 2011 by HvyMtl

[E4 No More]

Wow. Criticizing him over his choice of saluting rather than placing his hand on his heart. Definitely a slow news day. You don't even know the context of the photo. What if he was returning a salute? What about that guy to the left. That bastard. If he's military, he should be saluting. If not, he should take his hat off. Man that scum.

The sillhouette looks that of Admiral Mullens JCOS. Barry looks like he's calling someone.

[Guest HvyMtl]

weird double post... Internet is weak today...

[Guest Lester Weevils]

And Caster, your use of a RIGHT WING leader to compare to a LEFT WING leader - is fail.

If you want to troll it correctly, use Mao, or Stalin, or Lenin, or even Kim Il-sung.

Errr, um--

NAZI = National Socialist German Workers Party

Carry on otherwise, not interested in the obama picture or whether it is evidence of a gaffe.

[MattCary]

Errr, um--

NAZI = National Socialist German Workers Party

Carry on otherwise, not interested in the obama picture or whether it is evidence of a gaffe.

+1

The two photos in this thread are of Left-leaning types.

[Jasongar8]

Thread fail.

[Caster]

And Caster, your use of a RIGHT WING leader to compare to a LEFT WING leader - is fail.

If you want to troll it correctly, use Mao, or Stalin, or Lenin, or even Kim Il-sung.

You can label them however you like, but evil piece of poo is an evil piece of poo.

[MacGyver]

Per then commandant of the Marine Corps, General Robert Barrow to Ronald Reagan in 1981 when the modern tradition of Presidents returning salutes started, the POTUS as CINC is entitled to offer a salute to anyone he wishes.

While I may disagree with the President on most issues, I have no doubt he was sincere here. I imagine combat deaths are responsible for any President's graying hair.

Besides, his salute is a lot better than Bill Clinton's was.

[JG55]

[h=2]White House: No Photos Of Returning Heros Killed In SEAL Helicopter Crash But We Will Release This Picture Of Obama — Update: Carney Attempts To Explain Release Of Photo, Failure Ensues[/h]It’s all about him.

The official White House “Photo of the Day.”

Update: Why release a picture at all if it really was all about Obama honoring the fallen SEALs?

(Washington Examiner)

— When the coffins of the fallen Navy SEALS came back to US soil, the Pentagon and the White House closed the event to the press.

That’s understandable. After all, the George W. Bush administration made similar restrictions for such ceremonies, although President Obama overturned the policy.

The press complied as well, but when the White House released a photo yesterday of Obama saluting the coffins at the ceremony, they raised their eyebrows.

When Associated Press reporter Ben Feller asked about the photo today at the White House Press briefing, Carney answered:

“The reason we were able to release a photo, is that it was carefully done so that none of the transfer cases that contained remains were in the picture. . . we were able put those restrictions and control the White House photographer so that the photograph that we released does not cause any of those problems.”

Props to the AP reporter for calling out the White House. Every once in a while a MSM journalist does his or her job.

[Guest HvyMtl]

Errr, um--

NAZI = National Socialist German Workers Party

Carry on otherwise, not interested in the obama picture or whether it is evidence of a gaffe.

NOTE: The Nazi were co-opting the terms, please reread your history books. Making a far right extremist comparison to a left one is incorrect terminology. I was pointing this out as the present political culture does not remember history...

"Nazism was founded out of the far-right and racist German voelkisch nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany." Source: Thomas D. Grant. Stormtroopers and Crisis in the Nazi Movement: activism, ideology and dissolution. London, England, UK; New York, New York, USA: Routledge, 2004. Pp. 30-34, 44. (emphasis added.)

Though "poo is poo" might be true, Castor, having the correct comparison shows you know what you are talking about. I do like how you said that, the "poo" terminology. May I use it with your permission?

So. Again, the picture is a President (yours, even if you hate his guts. Respect the Office, even if you cannot respect the man...) doing his DUTY, to HONOR THE FALLEN. A DUTY THAT SHOULD NEVER BE LABELED POLITICALLY.

AND it seems too, someone in the WH may have forgotten this as well...

Edited August 10, 2011 by HvyMtl

[BigK]

Respect must be earned. It is not given out of duty...that would be fear.

Regardless, it cannot be a NON-political picture of a President doing his duty, b/c the White House released the photo for purely political reasons.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

NOTE: The Nazi were co-opting the terms, please reread your history books.

...

"Nazism was founded out of the far-right and racist German voelkisch nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany." Source: Thomas D. Grant. Stormtroopers and Crisis in the Nazi Movement: activism, ideology and dissolution. London, England, UK; New York, New York, USA: Routledge, 2004. Pp. 30-34, 44. (emphasis added.)

Hi HvyMtl

It would be unproductive to engage in an authority-quoting contest. I can quote you college perfessor historians who maintain that pre-revolutionary war colonists were rabidly anti-gun.

Left-Right has inadequate dimensions to describe the reality. Would an advocate of free speech in old Communist Russia have been called a right-winger or a left-winger? A conservative or a liberal?

The Nolan Chart at two dimensions gets closer, though numerous dimensions would be more ideal (but more difficult to conceptualize)--

Nolan Chart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nazis, commies and fascists would all share close space at the lower-left corner. If you project the 2D nolan chart onto the the one-dimensional left-right scale, then nazis, commies, fascists and pure libertarians would all be "centrists"!

Edited August 10, 2011 by Lester Weevils

[JG55]

The way you salute says a lot about you as a soldier. A proud, smart salute shows pride in yourself and your unit and that you are confident in your abilities as a soldier. A sloppy salute might mean that you're ashamed of your unit, lack confidence, or at the very least, that you haven't learned how to salute correctly

[DaveTN]

Respect must be earned. It is not given out of duty...that would be fear.

Were you in the military? I had to smile a little bit picturing someone telling a military Officer he had to earn their respect.

[E4 No More]

Were you in the military? I had to smile a little bit picturing someone telling a military Officer he had to earn their respect.

Saluting in that context is not respect; it is a regulation. I respected very few officers, but I saluted every single one of them. Even the officers said you were respecting the rank; not the man. I do believe Major Winters said as much in The Band Of Brothers - now that's a man I would salute out of respect!

[DaveTN]

Saluting in that context is not respect; it is a regulation. I respected very few officers, but I saluted every single one of them. Even the officers said you were respecting the rank; not the man. I do believe Major Winters said as much in The Band Of Brothers - now that's a man I would salute out of respect!

Unless they gave me reason otherwise; I respected all Military Officers and still do. They earned that respect by getting the commission. But that’s just my opinion; some people don’t respect anything.