How an Imaginary Gun Saved My Life (Now he wants a real one)

[greenego]

Op-Ed: How an Imaginary Gun Saved My Life<br />* | Commentary | Advocate.com

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[ls3_kid]

Ok...

1. He mentioned Washington D.C. (like he lives there) and is talking about owning a handgun. I thought it was/is illegal to own a handgun in D.C.?

2. I don't mind gay people but I don't know why they have to be like, "I'M GAY"? You don't see me walking all over the place yelling, "I LOVE P**SY". Just do your thing and don't be loud about it. Sorry just have a bone to pick about that.

[Warbird]

Yeah he mentioned that the Matthew Shepherd Hate Crime Prevention Act was largely symbolic, but it wasn't. It absolutely disgusts me. First of all, none of these laws prevent a crime from being committed. Secondly, and the part that disgusts me, is a group being singled out for special treatment for being attacked. Murder is murder, assault and battery is assault and battery. If you attack someone for the color of their skin, for their sexual orientation, for the way they dress or their gender, you should be prosecuted for the crime. What does it say about justice when attacking or murdering someone based on some specially recognized subset of society is worse than attacking someone who is not?

They base these laws on the fact that until the 1960's some citizens got off scot-free for harming or killing people based on their race. We have come far since then and by the time these laws started being passed these practices were basically a remnant of the past. Not to mention that many of the people who started pushing for this type of legislation did not believe that hate crimes went the other direction, i.e. the legally protected class harming the majority class based on the same type discrimination. They liked to say reverse discrimination hate crimes do not exist. Of course that is true. It isn't reverse discrimination. It is discrimination. For a society to exist peaceably over the long term, there must be equal protection under the law.

Edited July 21, 2011 by Warbird

[Oh Shoot]

Ok...

1. He mentioned Washington D.C. (like he lives there) and is talking about owning a handgun. I thought it was/is illegal to own a handgun in D.C.?...

Never heard of a little court ruckus in '08 called Heller vs. District of Columbia?

- OS

[Guest GunTroll]

How did this random group of black guys know he was gay? Maybe their gay-dar is far superior to mine. Not saying I care about orientation but I have always been a bad judge. Who cares really. I'm left to wonder if his bicycle was rainbow colored or something??

Second, their is a LGBT unit in police departments these days? I'm thinking I need to be classified into some group now so that I can receive special police efforts and or protection from evil doers.

Good for him for wanting to own a firearm and preach it to like minded LGBT folks .

[daddyo]

Ok...

1. He mentioned Washington D.C. (like he lives there) and is talking about owning a handgun. I thought it was/is illegal to own a handgun in D.C.?

2. I don't mind gay people but I don't know why they have to be like, "I'M GAY"? You don't see me walking all over the place yelling, "I LOVE P**SY". Just do your thing and don't be loud about it. Sorry just have a bone to pick about that.

LMAO at this.

[JAB]

Yeah he mentioned that the Matthew Shepherd Hate Crime Prevention Act was largely symbolic, but it wasn't. It absolutely disgusts me. First of all, none of these laws prevent a crime from being committed. Secondly, and the part that disgusts me, is a group being singled out for special treatment for being attacked. Murder is murder, assault and battery is assault and battery. If you attack someone for the color of their skin, for their sexual orientation, for the way they dress or their gender, you should be prosecuted for the crime. What does it say about justice when attacking or murdering someone based on some specially recognized subset of society is worse than attacking someone who is not?

They base these laws on the fact that until the 1960's some citizens got off scot-free for harming or killing people based on their race. We have come far since then and by the time these laws started being passed these practices were basically a remnant of the past. Not to mention that many of the people who started pushing for this type of legislation did not believe that hate crimes went the other direction, i.e. the legally protected class harming the majority class based on the same type discrimination. They liked to say reverse discrimination hate crimes do not exist. Of course that is true. It isn't reverse discrimination. It is discrimination. For a society to exist peaceably over the long term, there must be equal protection under the law.

Very well said. I mean, the very name 'hate crime' is idiotic. Maybe it happens but I just can't imagine there are all that many instances of someone beating someone else to a bloody pulp because they just like the victim so damn much.

I'll also add that I noticed he mentioned the LBGT unit of the police department. WHAT? There is a specific unit for that? So, is there a black unit? An Hispanic unit? Is there a pissed off, heterosexual white guy unit?

All that said, more power to this guy for writing this up. The more people/groups we have supporting the right of law abiding citizens to carry firearms for personal protection, the better. Unfortunately, I can see dumbass politicians in areas where carry is either not legal or very difficult passing laws that LGBT folks, along with a few other, special groups can carry because they may be targeted for hate crimes but that regular old, straight white guys still don't need to carry guns.

[Just2Honor]

+1 JAB

[MphsTiger1981]

Good that he's interested in getting a gun. Because he's so "out" I thought maybe he'd like this one from gunbroker.

Ruger LCP .380 Raspberry NIB

[ls3_kid]

Never heard of a little court ruckus in '08 called Heller vs. District of Columbia?

- OS

I don't recall it but I will look at it later.

[Oh Shoot]

I don't recall it but I will look at it later.

Might want to read about McDonald vs Chicago too.

The most significant gun rulings since 1934 regarding interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which I trust you have indeed heard of.

- OS

[Guest nicemac]

+(another)1 JAB

[ls3_kid]

Never heard of a little court ruckus in '08 called Heller vs. District of Columbia?

- OS

Well looks like I'm a little outdated haha. I haven't had to research gun laws for awhile.

Might want to read about McDonald vs Chicago too.

The most significant gun rulings since 1934 regarding interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which I trust you have indeed heard of.

- OS

I knew about this one, thanks for the information.

Edited July 21, 2011 by ls3_kid

[gregintenn]

If a person could tell you are gay while you are riding a bicycle down the street, you might want to rethink your wardrobe.

[Guest GunTroll]

Could have been his bike that gave him away why does everyone assume it was his clothes?

[BigK]

I've heard someone call somebody else a “****ing ******!” before knowing good and well that they weren't. They just said it to insult the other person.

I'm not saying the bicyclist wasn't wearing a rainbow pride t-shirt, just that the assailant's choice of words were no guarantee that gay guy got punched because he's gay.

I mean when I call someone an a-hole, I don't literally mean I think they are a rectum...just sayin'

[Oh Shoot]

Could have been his bike that gave him away why does everyone assume it was his clothes?

When I ride my girlie bike I at least wear shoes to cover my pink toe nail polish, jest sayin...

- OS

[mav]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that picked up on the LGBT unit of the police department. That is a shame.

I am in agreement with others that hate crimes legislation is detestable. Crime is crime. No special rights, protections, or treatment to certain segments of society.

Just out of curiosity, does anybody know of an anyone that has been convicted of a hate crime against a middle class heterosexual white guy?

[Guest nicemac]

If a person could tell you are gay while you are riding a bicycle down the street, you might want to rethink your wardrobe.

Awesome…

[Guest GunTroll]

When I ride my girlie bike I at least wear shoes to cover my pink toe nail polish, jest sayin...

- OS

Banana seat high bar circa 1970'ish with tassels? Tassels are awesome!

[greenego]

I first saw this story on Fox Business. The guy looked like just another Washington lobbyist, at least on the program. What really got my attention was someone in DC was advocating gun rights.

[E4 No More]

Banana seat high bar circa 1970'ish with tassels? Tassels are awesome!

Dude! That's hilarious!

[JAB]

Good that he's interested in getting a gun. Because he's so "out" I thought maybe he'd like this one from gunbroker.

Ruger LCP .380 Raspberry NIB

Heh, a friend of my wife's is gay. Honestly, he's a pretty cool guy (likes to do weekend long backpack hiking trips, etc. likes four wheel drive trucks and could very possibly kick my ass.) If you didn't 'know' then you probably wouldn't 'know' - he doesn't hide it but doesn't flaunt it, either. Anyhow, my wife mentioned one day that he had said on Facebook (I don't belong to Facebook and have no desire) that he was getting his HCP. I asked if he said what he plans to carry. She said that he already had a handgun but really wanted a Kimber .45 for carry.

[BigK]

Next thing you know, JAB will be trying to tell us this guy's a Republican too.

Just kidding man

[greenego]

Next thing you know, JAB will be trying to tell us this guy's a Republican too.

Just kidding man

Log cabin perhaps