alcohol...carry, but not on person

[Guest midnitelamp]

I don't think so.

How many threads have you derailed with your blabber regarding booze now?

not near as many lives derailed by booze.

[Guest midnitelamp]

I don't think so.

How many threads have you derailed with your blabber regarding booze now?

not nearly as many lives as derailed by booze.

what are you gonna do,drink more to spite me?

do you work for an alcohol distributer? do all your friends drink? what is YOUR problem?

[Fallguy]

It says very clearly in the establishment AND consuming OR intoxicated. I think OS is right you can have a drink as long as it's not a bar or restaurant and you are not "intoxicated", but again it comes down to the definition of intoxicated. That's gonna be up to the officer at the scene. Most other firearms laws have a defense if you use your weapon for a valid reason. I see no disclaimer here. If you are intoxicated and have a justifiable shooting do you still get a misdemeanor?

39-17-1322 applies to 39-17-1321 just the same as it does all 39-17-13** laws..

[Fallguy]

Yes, I should have been more precise. You can be caught dead drunk and carrying and not automatically lose your permit, as long as you aren't caught in a restuarant/bar.

It is also true that the exact wording of the statute does not call for your permit to be revoked for simply having a sip in there, assuming you were not also intoxicated. But I'd wager that if the trouble is taken to pop you for having that drink, you are also gonna be accused of intoxication while in there, but possibly not.

Good catch as usual on exact nuance of the wording, FG.

- OS

Well I'd wager if you are convicted of being under the influence and in possession of a handgun anywhere and have a permit, there is a decent chance it could be suspended for a while, I also agree if you are convicted of the just having a sip part it could be suspended, reckon they just wanted to make sure it was if you under in the influence and in a place that serves.

[ProjectDexter]

what if I buy beer at wally world and take it home. Do I have to be unarmed the entire time? Or does that not apply?

[Fallguy]

what if I buy beer at wally world and take it home. Do I have to be unarmed the entire time? Or does that not apply?

You don't have to be unarmed during any part of that...

[ProjectDexter]

You don't have to be unarmed during any part of that...

Thanks

[strickj]

not nearly as many lives as derailed by booze.

what are you gonna do,drink more to spite me?

do you work for an alcohol distributer? do all your friends drink? what is YOUR problem?

You are my problem.

Ya see, you do not like people that drink. I do not like people who do not like me.

That's nothing personal, it's just a tit for tat thing. If you drop the dislike for me, then I will drop my dislike for you. I'll even buy you a beer

Now, you can continue to sit up on your little high horse and snub your nose at me if it makes you feel like a better man. But, in reality, you are not better then me. You are not better then anyone else here that chooses to drink responsibly. We are all adults here. We are all perfectly capable of making adult decisions on adult beverages.

We do not need any help or guidance from you. We do not need our hand held. We do not need a nanny. We do not need a sippy cup to drink our booze from.

What we do need is for you to take your preaching back to your AA meetings...

[Guest midnitelamp]

well glad your drinking makes you feel like a real man.

like it or not drinking will carry you to an early grave the pen or to an asylum.

i like plenty of people who drink. i do not like booze around guns.

if one post can derail a thread it was headed off the tracks before i got there.

whiskey bottle brand new car oak tree you're in my way.

ring a bell?

p.s.: i knew it all when i was 28 too.

Edited July 15, 2011 by midnitelamp

[93civEJ1]

well glad your drinking makes you feel like a real man.

like it or not drinking will carry you to an early grave the pen or to an asylum.

i like plenty of people who drink. i do not like booze around guns.

if one post can derail a thread it was headed off the tracks before i got there.

whiskey bottle brand new car oak tree you're in my way.

ring a bell?

p.s.: i knew it all when i was 28 too.

science has proven that drinking (in moderation) can also help live a healthier / longer life .

Moderation meaning 1 to 2 drinks max a day (wine / beer)

[MacGyver]

well glad your drinking makes you feel like a real man.like it or not drinking will carry you to an early grave the pen or to an asylum.i like plenty of people who drink. i do not like booze around guns.if one post can derail a thread it was headed off the tracks before i got there.whiskey bottle brand new car oak tree you're in my way. ring a bell?p.s.: i knew it all when i was 28 too.

I really suggest you drop this subject. I won't ask again.

[strickj]

well glad your drinking makes you feel like a real man.

like it or not drinking will carry you to an early grave the pen or to an asylum.

i like plenty of people who drink. i do not like booze around guns.

if one post can derail a thread it was headed off the tracks before i got there.

whiskey bottle brand new car oak tree you're in my way.

ring a bell?

p.s.: i knew it all when i was 28 too.

Well, if I'm young and dumb, then you're old and senile. Tit for tat, et al.

The whole problem with your whole assessment there, is the fact that there are millions of people out there having a drink with their dinner (or maybe breakfast) right now. These people range in ages from young to old.

These people are not going to shoot and kill anyone. These people are not going to go insane. These people are not going to go to jail. These people are not going to kill themselves or others by having a few drinks.

These people are responsible drinkers. You know, just like responsible gun owners.

In fact, moderate alcohol has been proven to increase your lifespan and overall health. But, I guess the ones whom say that are just young and dumb scientists and medical doctors. What do they know...

Cut out the preaching and the "I'm better then ye" attitude. I know I'm not the only one getting tired of it. You have been given all the warnings you'll get (in this thread and others).

[Guest TresOsos]

When I made the decision to carry, I gave up drinking. Problem solved.

+1 except for the occasional drink at home. I definately gave up drink when I'm out. Others like it because I'm their Designated Driver.

[93civEJ1]

+1 except for the occasional drink at home. I definately gave up drink when I'm out. Others like it because I'm their Designated Driver.

and im guessing body guard as well while youre driving them...lol

[Deerbnb]

Are you kidding me? It would take a pitiful lack of judgment on the part of a LEO if he was somehow made aware that you were drinking and carrying and didn’t ask you to submit to a breath test. You now have a dilemma. Take a breath test that will be used against you on a carrying while intoxicated charge or refuse and lose your driver’s license on complied consent.

I just don’t believe a responsible person would be drinking while carrying. That includes going out of the restaurant and putting it on.

If you feel the need that strongly to protect yourself and your family with a gun; don’t drink. I don’t want anyone making life and death decisions that may impact me or my family while their mind is clouded with alcohol.

Maybe DaveTN didn't read the part where I said "max 2" away from home. I am not sure where you draw your info from but this middle aged 250 lb man is not exactly what I'd call impaired after consuming 2 drinks while eating. I certainly didn't mean to add any fuel to this(out of control at this point) fire. I will go quietly away now.

[Guest TresOsos]

and im guessing body guard as well while youre driving them...lol

Actually that's pretty accurate, I'll tag along with the wife and her friends and act as driver,chaperone and bodyguard.

Sometimes is really a lot of fun.

[strickj]

To whom cares, I am not advocating drunk driving nor drunk carrying. The person I have been replying to in this thread has made posts in a couple of other threads or so about his hate for all things alcohol, whilst maintaining a "I'm better then ye" attitude on the matter.

These posts (his and my replies) are not about drinking and carrying, they are about drinking in general.