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Yes, we've been able to carry, with a permit, in national parks for quite some time.

Discretion is always the better solution when you encounter a bear.

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Yes, we've been able to carry, with a permit, in national parks for quite some time.

Discretion is always the better solution when you encounter a bear.

Yep. Unless you're carrying a big bore hogleg, shooting a grizzly will just piss him off.

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I plan on doing some backpacking in Yellowstone next summer. I don't really plan on carrying anything other than some bear spray. Awareness is your top weapon against bears.

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I plan on doing some backpacking in Yellowstone next summer. I don't really plan on carrying anything other than some bear spray. Awareness is your top weapon against bears.

That is the suggestion by officials is to be aware and take pepper spray.

They also say they believe this attack was by a female protecting her cubs and if it is the case, they will not put her down. They also said there are now 600 Grizzlies in the park and sightings are becoming more frequent.

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Bear mace anyone? :rofl:

Seriously though, not to make fun at the attack, but why do people venture into bear territory and then make a fuss when a bear taps them on the shoulder and says "This is my house, get out." I wouldn't expect to go into any TGO members house uninvited and come out alive, you can't fault the bear for the same reasoning. I like the fact that they won't hunt down the bear responsible like they would years back.

Don't poke the snake with a stick, don't pee in the wind and don't play in a stream full of salmon without a very large revolver on your hip. *Sigh* common sense is lost on the modern man. If you're in the city you watch for ghetto trash and other possible threats, why do folks not carry on the same when in the wilderness?

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That is the suggestion by officials is to be aware and take pepper spray.

They also say they believe this attack was by a female protecting her cubs and if it is the case, they will not put her down. They also said there are now 600 Grizzlies in the park and sightings are becoming more frequent.

I'm glad they're not going to put her down. It's a shame and probably not the hikers fault entirely. Jut a case of the wrong place at the wrong time. I realize some scoff at the idea of carrying a can of hot sauce for bear defense, but it is a statistically proven method of defense against a bear. Same with awareness. Talking loudly, clapping, shouting when coming around a blind corner are good ideas when in grizzly country. Obviously nothing is 100%, but I really don't want to lug around a 5 pound hand cannon in addition to the 30 or so lbs of gear I'll be trekking with.

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A bear's nose is what? A zillion times more sensitive than a human?? Fill it with concentrated capsicum and chances are, it'll buy you time to make an exit.

Guest GunTroll
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All the years I lived in that area I never carried a handgun while hiking in the NP's. Bear spray is a must! I have personally encountered two bears and my alertness saved my arse. I did not have to discharge the sauce luckily. I felt pretty dumb but a simple yell every now and then seemed to keep the bears alert to my presence and therefore away from me. Whistles work wonders too.

Guns are for the idiots that venture within to do you harm. Not the wildlife.

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I would definitely have bear spray in Grizzly country and use all of my wood skills too. I plan on taking the wife to Yellowstone next spring but I will have to leave my sidearms at home. I think I can out run her but she's tricky.

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Yes, we've been able to carry, with a permit, in national parks for quite some time. ..

No, you can carry in accordance with laws of the state in which the park resides. For example, anyone can open carry in the North Carolina part of the Smokies with no permit at all. Or carry openly OR concealed without permit in Arizona and Alaska parks, etc.

I have read that in some parks out west you can carry a loaded long gun without permit, too.

- OS

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Guest friesepferd
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yep, we have been allowed to carry in national parks for a while now (as long as you can carry in state parks, which you can in TN).

i also agree though that awareness is +1 defense, bear pepper spray is #2, gun is near the end of the list, but still important to have for many other reasons.

Guest WyattEarp
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Yep. Unless you're carrying a big bore hogleg, shooting a grizzly will just piss him off.

shoot it in the nuts or the vag. it won't be in a mood to fight for quite sometime. either that or shoot it in the eye.

Guest db99wj
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shoot it in the nuts or the vag. it won't be in a mood to fight for quite sometime. either that or shoot it in the eye.

If it's gotten to that point I'm shooting it wherever 13 times and reloading another 12 to repeat!

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yep, we have been allowed to carry in national parks for a while now (as long as you can carry in state parks, which you can in TN). ...

Where's y'all keep getting this stuff? Carry in state parks has nothing to do with it.

You can carry in national parks according to the carry laws within each state, unless any forbid carrying in national parks by state statute, which currently none do, although of course Illinois bans carry anywhere. Some states do ban carry in state parks, but you can still carry in the national parks.

- OS

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My original post intended to be specific to TN... in that with a valid HCP, you can carry in a national park within the state. I guess that wasn't clear.

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I would definitely have bear spray in Grizzly country and use all of my wood skills too. I plan on taking the wife to Yellowstone next spring but I will have to leave my sidearms at home. I think I can out run her but she's tricky.

HA! See second signature.

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I plan on doing some backpacking in Yellowstone next summer. I don't really plan on carrying anything other than some bear spray. Awareness is your top weapon against bears.

I'm aware that bear spray doesn't sound like anything I want to depend on when confronting a bear.

Guest bkelm18
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I'm aware that bear spray doesn't sound like anything I want to depend on when confronting a bear.
A handgun isn't something I'd want to depend on either. :panic:

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