Senators want China to assist probe of counterfeit weapons parts. but china won't

[Guest 1817ak47]

this should not surprise anyone that china has done this. I call inside job with chinas government involved!!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/14/senators-want-china-assist-probe-counterfeit-weapo/?fb_ref=.TffKEBf1lHc&fb_source=profile_oneline

Edited June 18, 2011 by 1817ak47
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[Guest Bronker]

Thanks, 1817ak47.

[Mike.357]

hmmm removed, must have been very true or very wrong.

[Guest 1817ak47]

try again. attempted to fix it. I can get it to work on mine

[Dropkick Murphy]

I read an article a few months back about two 19 year old kids becoming millionaires by selling surplus ammo, and weapons to the government. They would buy up lots of AKs and ammo left over from when Russia invaded Afghanistan. They'd buy it for pennies on the dollar and sell it to our government "as new" so they could give it to the ANA troops.

They never mentioned counterfeit weapons or parts, but they talked about some really shady stuff they were selling our troops. I'll see if I can dig it up.

This is not the article I was referring to, but this is a good one too. The Stoner Arms Dealers: How Two American Kids Became Big-Time Weapons Traders | Rolling Stone Politics

[Guest GunTroll]

Just like how "we" defeated Russia with out a direct confrontation or openly shots fired at each other, we are losing this new war against China. They own us and we owe them.

It makes me sick that DC has got us to this point.

[Guest 1817ak47]

Just like how "we" defeated Russia with out a direct confrontation or openly shots fired at each other, we are losing this new war against China. They own us and we owe them.

It makes me sick that DC has got us to this point.

but they have screwed us with there policies too. we always have to take there crap but they don't take any from us. let those sobs try a ground invasion on this country! see what happens

[mk19]

China counterfeiting stuff? I can't believe it. please note HUGE PILES of sarcasm.

[DaveTN]

Just like how "we" defeated Russia with out a direct confrontation or openly shots fired at each other, we are losing this new war against China. They own us and we owe them.

It makes me sick that DC has got us to this point.

The communists have always said they would take the U.S. without firing a shot. If they do it, it will be because our greed let them.

This can't all be blamed on the government. Some of it can, like allowing conterfitted products to be sold here. China openly counterfeits everything from Microsoft Windows and Callaway Golf clubs to Leupold scopes and EOtech holo sights.

They wouldn't do it if they didn't have a market. If you trade in counterfeit products you should be arrested.... its theft and its a criminal act.

It's not just China that is damaging our economy and our way of life. I can understand why someone would buy a foreign made product if they can't afford the American made product or if the foreign made product was better quality. But I can't for the life of me understand why someone would a buy a foreign made product that is about the same money and less quality than an American made product.

This is a no brainer. In the future our kids, grand kids and great grand kids will ask how we could have been so stupid. Some of you are young enough that they may be looking you in the eye when they ask that question. They will think you were greedy fools that sold out their future by believing statements like "It's a global economy, there is nothing we can do." or "Importing products and outsourcing services to those making slave labor wages helps keep costs down."

Unless something changes they will see our founding Fathers and the generations that followed them (the Patriots of the first and second world wars) as the people that made this country great. They will see us as the spoiled, greedy, well-to-do children that thought a dollar was more important than patriotism.

Washington has done some stupid things, but they don't control our econemy; we do. And we can turn it around any time we choose.

[DaveTN]

let those sobs try a ground invasion on this country! see what happens

There's part of the problem.... Americans that think everyone wants our country.

China's economy is flourishing because of the money we spend with them. They don't want to stop that. They want it to continue until they become the super manufacturing base we once were; then they won't need or want us.

They have no desire to get in a war with us and certainty have no desire to occupy our country.

The "fighting on our own soil" is just Internet hype or stuff for movies. As long as our #1 line of defense (Our ballistic submarines) is in place no county on earth will attempt to put boots on U.S. soil. If we have a country to target it will not matter what happens in the attack; they are toast. It's called MAD "Mutually assured destruction". Its what keeps the counties that have nuclear weapons safe, and its why the rest of the countries are trying to get their own nuclear weapons.

Until someone develops some technology that assures a nuke can't be deployed; we are pretty safe from another country invading us. Terrorists attacks are a different story, but generally no country is taking credit for those.

The decision to nuke Japan was made because the U.S. knew that we would lose hundreds of thousands of troops trying to occupy Japan because the citizens were armed. Even without nuclear retaliations against an invading country the same thing would happen to anyone that tried to invade us.

[Guest mustangdave]

Why on earth would YOU rat YOURSELF out? Is Congress that naive?...Probably

[Guest GunTroll]

The communists have always said they would take the U.S. without firing a shot. If they do it, it will be because our greed let them.

This can't all be blamed on the government. Some of it can, like allowing conterfitted products to be sold here. China openly counterfeits everything from Microsoft Windows and Callaway Golf clubs to Leupold scopes and EOtech holo sights.

They wouldn't do it if they didn't have a market. If you trade in counterfeit products you should be arrested.... its theft and its a criminal act.

It's not just China that is damaging our economy and our way of life. I can understand why someone would buy a foreign made product if they can't afford the American made product or if the foreign made product was better quality. But I can't for the life of me understand why someone would a buy a foreign made product that is about the same money and less quality than an American made product.

This is a no brainer. In the future our kids, grand kids and great grand kids will ask how we could have been so stupid. Some of you are young enough that they may be looking you in the eye when they ask that question. They will think you were greedy fools that sold out their future by believing statements like "It's a global economy, there is nothing we can do." or "Importing products and outsourcing services to those making slave labor wages helps keep costs down."

Unless something changes they will see our founding Fathers and the generations that followed them (the Patriots of the first and second world wars) as the people that made this country great. They will see us as the spoiled, greedy, well-to-do children that thought a dollar was more important than patriotism.

Washington has done some stupid things, but they don't control our economy; we do. And we can turn it around any time we choose.

I agree with you to a degree. WE must make a change at the consumer level to get anywhere because WE aren't directly in charge of anything concerning foreign trade. I feel its a slippery slope with China. And we have been sliding for a while, downward. We borrow, we owe, and we lost our balls to stand up to our masters since they are our bank. I am not versed in economics well enough to fully understand our economic system yet alone a global economy but I'd say we are very screwed.

I also agree with your other post on an invasion. It's been tried and it ended badly every time for the invader. I doubt hostile landing crafts will come to our shores. Instead, I suspect we will welcome them like a Trojan horse so to speak. They might be wearing light blue helmets and offering help .