Leo first encounter with my hcp

[Guest mbushell]

why would he have an ar15 and a m16? Seems redundant especially with a mp5. Also i have never heard of a PD using a Barrett .50 especially for fear of over penetration

I asked the same thing. He could have fought a private war out of the trunk. Some of the guns were his personal...some were dept issue.

Said he would never use his own on a call. He has them there just in case

[gregintenn]

why would he have an ar15 and a m16? Seems redundant especially with a mp5. Also i have never heard of a PD using a Barrett .50 especially for fear of over penetration

But you aren't the least bit curious about the rocket launcher? Is it common for an LEO to carry one?

[Il Duce]

I assumed the grenade launcher was for tear gas

[gregintenn]

I assumed the grenade launcher was for tear gas

Thanks. That makes sense.

[Guest ArmaDeFuego]

Since you didnt press charges now the guy is gonna think that the next time someone does something he doesnt like he can break into their place & steal their stuff too. He'll probably think "Hey they didnt do anything to me last time, they wont do anything this time...."

Edited June 20, 2011 by ArmaDeFuego

[TNRobocop]

I think Rutherford County SO has a .50 Barrett also....

[Pain103]

Murfreesboro PD has Barretts Ronnie donated them.

[Guest Woodandsteel]

I had a similar experience. I have a lot of LEO customers where I work, and I commented on the LCR on the hip of a local, small town Chief of Police who was in the store. His face lit up, and he started raving about it as he unloaded it and handed it to me to feel the trigger on it. He gave me his card and invited me to go shooting at his department's private range. A week later I was riding to the range in the passenger seat of his unmarked cruiser, with his loaded M16 in my lap. I shot his LCR, Kimber compact, SOCOM 16, SBS, m16 (30 round mag dump!), and his g17c.

PS: New guy here. First thread I read, and couldn't pass up sharing the story.

Edited June 19, 2011 by Woodandsteel

[Loon160T]

Seems like I'm always late to the party but I'll comment anyway:

Shot a full-auto MP5 a few weeks ago and it's absolutely on my gotta have list (a guy can dream you know).

I did a few ride-a-longs a life-time ago and the deputy actually provided me a carry piece since I didn't have one at the time and it was way before the much-improved licencing we have now. Anyway, we made a stop late one morning and I was standing on the right side of the patrol car while the subject was assuming the position on the left side of the car. The deputy was calling in the subject's vitals on the radio when he decided to run. The deputy jumped out of the car and fired a warning shot over the subject's head. He dropped to the ground and we secured him in the patrol car. Later on, the deputy told me the subject definitely needed a change of underwear.

[Guest mbushell]

I had a similar experience. I have a lot of LEO customers where I work, and I commented on the LCR on the hip of a local, small town Chief of Police who was in the store. His face lit up, and he started raving about it as he unloaded it and handed it to me to feel the trigger on it. He gave me his card and invited me to go shooting at his department's private range. A week later I was riding to the range in the passenger seat of his unmarked cruiser, with his loaded M16 in my lap. I shot his LCR, Kimber compact, SOCOM 16, SBS, m16 (30 round mag dump!), and his g17c.

PS: New guy here. First thread I read, and couldn't pass up sharing the story.

I find this forum to be alot of fun. You'll like it... lots of good info. I'm sure you can see that folks love to pick things apart here though. It didn't happen to them...so it cant be true.

[Guest mbushell]

Since you didnt press charges now the guy is gonna think that the next time someone does something he doesnt like he can break into their place & still their stuff too. He'll probably think "Hey they didnt do anything to me last time, they wont do anything this time...."

I'm sure he regrets what he has done. His company was/is trying to open hundreds of these stores over the next few years. I was his fixture maker. Without me he will pay double for his furniture costing him millions.

I said millons...That is the reason I decided to squash the charges. He may have done wrong, but the work I do for them/him is keeping my shop very very busy and profitable.

[mikegideon]

I had a similar experience. The LEO who pulled me over also was a SWAT officer. Not only did he let me fondle his guns, he let me take part in one of their raids. They let me use my AK. It was awesome.

:lol:

[Guest 270win]

I wonder how the older peace officers ever got by with 38 special/357 revolvers/occasional 1911, shotguns and hunting rifles before all this heavy equipment and SWAT? I know Little Rock PD SWAT has a TANK now. Retired relatives of mine who were police in Little Rock are not too impressed by that because they said they got by quite well raiding houses (doing SWAT jobs) with slappers, revolvers, and pump shotguns. When there was a hostage situation, they had their good shooters set up with rifles.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I'm a good listener and people will often open up and talk about their interests when they find a good listener, possibly because there are not many good listeners in the world.

Back when I was a gun-phobic hippy maybe 1974, we had a burglary and after the policeman came out and took the report we got to chatting. I was a good listener learning what I could and he went into lecture and demo mode showing me the guns and the shotgun mounted between the seats and the other tools of the trade. It was real interesting but kind of disturbing at the time because I was gun-phobic and here was a fellow who obviously liked his guns.

[Guest errishe45]

I had a similar experience. I have a lot of LEO customers where I work, and I commented on the LCR on the hip of a local, small town Chief of Police who was in the store. His face lit up, and he started raving about it as he unloaded it and handed it to me to feel the trigger on it. He gave me his card and invited me to go shooting at his department's private range. A week later I was riding to the range in the passenger seat of his unmarked cruiser, with his loaded M16 in my lap. I shot his LCR, Kimber compact, SOCOM 16, SBS, m16 (30 round mag dump!), and his g17c.

PS: New guy here. First thread I read, and couldn't pass up sharing the story.

Isn't it always nice when a new member joins and immediately backs up a story told by another member who, for some reason or another, isn't a believable story?

I find this forum to be alot of fun. You'll like it... lots of good info. I'm sure you can see that folks love to pick things apart here though. It didn't happen to them...so it cant be true.

You're right about this place being a good place for info. The flip side of that coin is there are alot of members who are either LEO's themselves, retired, or just plain ole smart, intelligent people who know a fish story when they hear one.

I'm sure he regrets what he has done. His company was/is trying to open hundreds of these stores over the next few years. I was his fixture maker. Without me he will pay double for his furniture costing him millions.

I said millons...That is the reason I decided to squash the charges. He may have done wrong, but the work I do for them/him is keeping my shop very very busy and profitable.

Wow. Hey pays millions of dollars for your services yet takes the chance of getting jail time for a felony to save a little money? Doesn't make much cents.

[Dolomite_supafly]

Since you didnt press charges now the guy is gonna think that the next time someone does something he doesnt like he can break into their place & still their stuff too. He'll probably think "Hey they didnt do anything to me last time, they wont do anything this time...."

+1

The suspect has done this before. People generally don't go from being a law abiding citizen to breaking and entering. There are baby steps to get them there for most people.

I am sure there is some reason why you didn't, probably because you thought you were going to help him out by letting him walk. But in reality you have done nothing but embolden him. He is going to do it again, maybe not to you but to someone else. And when the thief does who do you think is going to pay for what the business owner has lost? All of us, that is who. Thieves cost us all money because anytime there is a theft we all pay through higher prices or higher insurance premiums because someone has to cover the loss. We all complain about the higher and higher costs of everyday items while our dollar continues to shrink. If there is one thing we can do to help offset these we should without giving thought to how it is going to affect the thief. After all it is the thief who is responsible for the outcome not the victim.

How would you normally handle substantial losses through theft? File an insurance claim or higher prices until the loss is recovered?

The thief is not thinking you were a nice guy for not pressing charges. He is thinking you are an ass for bringing the cops into it even if the thief didn't go to jail. He is also probably bragging about how he broke into your store and you didn't press charges. Who do you think he is bragging to? Other thieves and degenerates so be prepared for a rash of break ins at your place.

You can still file charges as long as there is a report. Just because you said you didn't want to press chargs doesn't mean you can't go have a warrant issued still. Doing something to prevent him from doing it again will help us all out as well as him. Maybe next time the thief will be met by someone with a gun and lose his life.

Just a few thoughts on the situation.

Dolomite

[Guest Woodandsteel]

Isn't it always nice when a new member joins and immediately backs up a story told by another member who, for some reason or another, isn't a believable story?

You're right about this place being a good place for info. The flip side of that coin is there are alot of members who are either LEO's themselves, retired, or just plain ole smart, intelligent people who know a fish story when they hear one.

Yeah, I can understand that my story sounds far-fetched! I don't know the OP, and can't verify the truth of his story but mine is true. I work at a bicycle shop and we handle all the maintenance for the bike patrols for the city/county, the university, and several smaller nearby agencies. We also have a lot of LEO's who are cyclists and regular customers (which is why this police chief was in the store) so I know, and have rapport with many of the local LEO's, but this was the first time I'd met this chief. The police chief is in a very small, quiet town. He tells me his staff pretty much runs things so he has time to do a lot of community relations work: seniors safety classes, or taking a citizen like me to the range.

I found the only pic I took that day of me with the M16 in my lap in his crown Vic. Notice the corner of his computer rig in the left side of the picture:

[mikegideon]

I'm sure he regrets what he has done. His company was/is trying to open hundreds of these stores over the next few years. I was his fixture maker. Without me he will pay double for his furniture costing him millions.

I said millons...That is the reason I decided to squash the charges. He may have done wrong, but the work I do for them/him is keeping my shop very very busy and profitable.

I understand your situation, as long as you know that you're staking your future on a criminal. If he's THAT dishonest, your revenue could stop at any time whether you press charges or not. If I was in your shoes, I would be looking for new contracts to replace his business ASAP.

[Guest nicemac]

I understand your situation, as long as you know that you're staking your future on a criminal. If he's THAT dishonest, your revenue could stop at any time whether you press charges or not. If I was in your shoes, I would be looking for new contracts to replace his business ASAP.

+1

[Guest waldo]

I have had two encounters, both speeding. First one I also had expired temp tags by a few days. As soon as he saw my permit in my wallet he asked if I was carrying and where the gun was. I pointed under my seat. He ran my license and let my off with a verbal warning. The second saw my permit and ask where the gun was, he had me stand outside and he took both guns to his car, returned with both guns with the mags out and the slides back and both bullets that were in the tubes. He advised that we should not fill the mags to capacity because it makes the springs weak. Very nice guy and let me off with a verbal. Both very pleasant experiences.

[Gun Smith]

If a person is willing to let someone commit a crime in order to line their pockets, they are no better than a prostitute or a drug dealer selling crack to children.

[Guest nashvegas]

He advised that we should not fill the mags to capacity because it makes the springs weak.

Now that's funny!

[Dolomite_supafly]

He advised that we should not fill the mags to capacity because it makes the springs weak.

Now that's funny!

It is use that kills springs more so than being compressed for a long time. I found an old AR mag of my fathers. It was loaded with over 20 rounds and had been that way for a very long time. The last time he would have had it was in the mid 80's and I found it in roughly 2005. I emptied the mag, loaded it up and fired it without issue.

Dolomite

[Guest nysos]

It is use that kills springs more so than being compressed for a long time. I found an old AR mag of my fathers. It was loaded with over 20 rounds and had been that way for a very long time. The last time he would have had it was in the mid 80's and I found it in roughly 2005. I emptied the mag, loaded it up and fired it without issue.

Dolomite

I've read where a guy inherited his dad's gun collection and goodies after he passed away. Part of his collection he had a few ammo cans with fully loaded 1911 mags in them, his dad loaded them sometime in the late 1940s. The guy finally got around to shooting them (now in his own retirement) and said every single one functioned perfectly. Don't know if it is true or not, but I have no worries storing my mags fully loaded for extended amounts of time. As dolomite said, it is the wear (compression/decompression cycle) that causes a properly made spring to degrade. Having the mag unloaded, the spring is still partially compressed....yet people don't worry about the spring being damaged. If the long term compression really affected mags (and it doesn't) everyone should pop their base plates off their mags and let the springs relax for long term storage of ANY mag.

Sometimes people just don't think about how things work.

[maddog909]

"Ummm...BTW I wouldn't mess around in blount county if I were you."

What do you mean?