News ya can be happy with -- "Dr. Death" dead!

[leroy]

All:______________

Here is some good news for the human race. Dr. Jack Kevorkian has finally "experienced and studied the dying process first hand".

Link here: Assisted suicide advocate Jack Kevorkian dies | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Some may not see it this way; but i believe it is a great day for mankind. The Death Angel has finally called on this alleged researcher into the dying process. He has finally joined that other noted researcher Joseph Mengele. I say good riddance!

leroy

[Mike.357]

I don't agree with you even one iota.

I don't even know what to say to your Mengela comment.

People have no say over their arrival, but they darn well ought to be able to choose their time and method of departure.

[G27]

Hrmm, while I normally agree with you, Leroy, I think we disagree here. I'm still unsure why, in this supposedly free country we live in, one is not legally able to take one's own life - especially in the circumstances he worked to help folks do it.

[Caster]

Well that's easy to answer. The dead can't pay taxes and Socialism Security. Brand that law with a moral code stamp so the church will accept it and there you go.

I believe in God as much as anyone, but who am I to tell you you can't make an exit. Stupid. I mean think about it, if everyone who wishes they were dead jut fell over right now, that's a lot of mouths to feed that don't need feeding. Troubled people should have the option of getting help, but if you're just tired of being here, get going.

there was an episode of Star Trek next generation where this planet of people, once a certain age would take their own life. I think the age was like 65 or 70. In a way I thought it some appeal because you went out while still of sound mind and body. No one had memories of their ailing family wasting away as a vegetable. I'd heap rather be dead as so infirm as to not be able to wipe my own.

In fact the older I get the more I think about my great grandmother. I heard her say one time, "I'm tired and I've seen enough. I love ya'll but when my number gets called I'll run you over if your in my way." That didn't make sense 20 years ago. It's slowly starting to.

Edited June 3, 2011 by Caster

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

While I'm not going to get overly emotional at his passing, I think Dr. Kevorkian provided an important service to people in need, and did quite a bit to shine some light on the terrible suffering people with debilitating illnesses can go through at the end of their lives. The people on all but one jury in the cases against him certainly felt that way. When they saw the videos his patients made, they would not convict him. Of course, he did push the envelope and got popped when he did the deed himself rather than let the patient take the lethal action. But he did that deliberately. He needed to define the limits of what his peers found acceptable, and he was willing to spend time in jail to find out where the line was.

[Curiousgb]

Associating Kevorkian with Mengele is one hell of a stretch. I tend to believe we ought to be able to choose a dignified end to our existence.

[Jonnin]

Having seen enough elderly family members and friends waste away slowly, in great pain and unable to enjoy anything at all, I am convinced that there is a time and a place where some folks should be allowed to say "let me die". If the patient, family, and doctor can all agree, that is enough for me.

[Murgatroy]

Much like everyone else, I have to disagree with the OP. I saw this earlier and was going to post, but I am at work and otherwise occupied.

I think that Kevorkian provided a valuable service. Nothing he did 'forced' folks to decide in either way. It just made it easier if they chose to use his services. Having watched many people that are close to me just waste away after living a very active and fulfilling life (my grandfather who was a great role model, a hell of a soldier and an all around great man comes to mind rather easy) and then being confined to a bed for sometimes years before passing, I find it more dignified to allow someone to go out on their own terms.

[vontar]

while I personally don't like the thought of suicide and have my moral reasons against it. I can not tell someone that is dying of a painful disease no you can not end your life on your own terms. I may not want to be part of it but I would not deny them access to seek it out either. I would not load a gun and hand it to them either but I can understand some people being in in pain at the end of life. There is a point medical science can only go so far or will only go far to relieve pain.

[Reservoir Dog]

I think that Kevorkian provided a valuable service. Nothing he did 'forced' folks to decide in either way. It just made it easier if they chose to use his services. .....,I find it more dignified to allow someone to go out on their own terms.

+1

Comparing Kevorkian to Joseph Mengele is just plain ridiculous.

[Guest UberDuper]

I don't revel in death.

[bajabuc]

I don't revel in death.

You ain't old enough, yet

[mikegideon]

All:______________

Here is some good news for the human race. Dr. Jack Kevorkian has finally "experienced and studied the dying process first hand".

Link here: Assisted suicide advocate Jack Kevorkian dies | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Some may not see it this way; but i believe it is a great day for mankind. The Death Angel has finally called on this alleged researcher into the dying process. He has finally joined that other noted researcher Joseph Mengele. I say good riddance!

leroy

I liked that guy

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

I think this is the most civil conversation we would possibly have about this, and perhaps the most agreement you will ever find on this forum on such a contentious topic. I would be lying if I said it didn't surprise me.

[BryanP]

While I take issue with some of his methodology, his ideals for Death With Dignity are very much in line with mine.

[Will Carry]

If you have ever watched a person you love die of a terrible disease, I mean die slow and painful, agony every second............then you might understand. I have and I do.

I know suicide is a sin but at times, it doesn't really mean much....oh yeah. Happy Friday. Thanks for bringing back the memories I spent 30 years trying to forget.

My wife was 18 years old when she got bone cancer. The cancer would grow inside her bones until they would split open. She fought that battle for 7 years. Death was a God send! You just don't know nothin'

Edited June 3, 2011 by Will Carry

[Tnscooter63]

we need more people like him who take a stand for what they believe no matter the personal sacrifice. Not sure if it is morally right or spritualy drivenand probably wont know till is my turn, but I can appreciate the stance with a society in denial while helping those who suffer. May he R.I.P. with the people he helped.

[Oh Shoot]

My "death fear" is that my mind goes, so that I couldn't even choose to take the ultimate action.

Even Dr. Death couldn't have helped with that -- rest in peace, Jack.

Umm, what was the topic again?

- OS

[bajabuc]

Every day I wake up and look down to see green grass is better than the first day I look up and see roots. I don't revel in death either...but I'm not going to be sorry when I'm gone. There is no sorrow there.

My "death fear" is that my mind goes, so that I couldn't even choose to take the ultimate action.

Even Dr. Jack couldn't have helped with that.

Umm, what was the topic again?

- OS

My daughter has promised to put me to sleep when I don't know who she is...I thanked her in advance.

Edited June 3, 2011 by bajabuc

[mikegideon]

My "death fear" is that my mind goes, so that I couldn't even choose to take the ultimate action.

Even Dr. Death couldn't have helped with that -- rest in peace, Jack.

Umm, what was the topic again?

- OS

You have plenty of brain cells left. As long as you don't take too many more rounds to the noggin, you'll be fine

[VERO1]

If I have no quality of life left, I sure hope there is someone around to put me out of my misery!

[enfield]

I don't agree with you even one iota.

I don't even know what to say to your Mengela comment.

People have no say over their arrival, but they darn well ought to be able to choose their time and method of departure.

Everybody does choose their time and method, even if choosing the default.

No one has a right to choose assisted suicide. Unassisted is totally up to the victim, but assistance is not a right.

Kevorkian walked the edge between legal and illegal until his ego got the better of the little bit of common sense he had left, and he was righteously convicted of murder.

Good riddance.

[Mike.357]

Enfield you are flat out wrong.

And as Forrest Gump said " that's all I have to say about that"_

Edited June 3, 2011 by Mike.357

[Caster]

Everybody does choose their time and method, even if choosing the default.

No one has a right to choose assisted suicide. Unassisted is totally up to the victim, but assistance is not a right.

Kevorkian walked the edge between legal and illegal until his ego got the better of the little bit of common sense he had left, and he was righteously convicted of murder.

Good riddance.

Please understand I'm NOT poo slingin' here, this isn't a personal attack, I'm being sincere here.

Who are you to tell me and my friend or paid associate what we can and cannot do when the end result does not effect you or anyone else. To tell me I cannot have a friend or paid associate carry out the wishes of my sound mind would no different than bringing me into a full bore communist regime, telling me how to live and how to think. The only difference is a communist would see the benefits of allowing the infirm [i.e. non productive] to pass on and no longer be a burden.

[bajabuc]

Please understand I'm NOT poo slingin' here, this isn't a personal attack, I'm being sincere here.

Who are you to tell me and my friend or paid associate what we can and cannot do when the end result does not effect you or anyone else. To tell me I cannot have a friend or paid associate carry out the wishes of my sound mind would no different than bringing me into a full bore communist regime, telling me how to live and how to think. The only difference is a communist would see the benefits of allowing the infirm [i.e. non productive] to pass on and no longer be a burden.

I'm liking you more every post...we may not always agree...but when it's sorted and done we're pretty much on the same side.

This is to Enfield:

My ancestors (finnlanders) a long time ago got to choose the manner of their going. When I have no mind left to choose...don't keep me around. I'm on TennCare...do you want the state (that's you the taxpayer) to spend a fortune keeping me alive? As it is I'm a DNR and NHM. People have been complaining about SS and Wellfare...keeping me alive is much worse.