Has the GOP committed suicide?

[Guest mustangdave]

I'm thinking both "parties" are falling apart...and the void may just be filled with Socialist and leftists...is this what democracy looks like?...friggin MOB rule

[Caster]

Well, "THE PEOPLE" have decided. Socialism it is. If it wasn't true then there'd be enough people willing to do something about it. As it is, there is not.

[leroy]

All:_______________

Here is "da man" who invented social security; that greatest of germans, Otto Von Bismark:

The german concept of "old age workers pension" was a bone thrown to the socialists among the germans (...mostly manufacturing folks who lived in the east of germany and believed the union lies and communist baloney comming from the Marxists...) that this great old man did to keep the peace in germany; and keep the serfs working in the great german manufacturing plants. A shrewd political move in a nation that reveres industry and believes in authoritarian government. By the way, the german age for "old age workers pension" was 70 years old. Do ya reckon old otto intended to out pay many claims?

That noted socialist and paternalist elitist, FDR simply borrowed from this great old man to create social security. Notice the name..." social security"... . as in "Socialist"; simply a euphanism for communism and socialism. All in accordance with that great communist manifesto pronouncement: ...."From each in accordance with his abilities. To each in accordance with his needs...". What sickening tripe!....

Never believe that this program wasnt created to "buy folks with"; and it has. On a personal note, i find it quite interesting that all the paternalist socialist elites always do these things with money confiscated from you; not them.

As the great garfield says; "....You are responsible for you...". Social security is simply a tax taken by the point of the bayonet from every working man and given to both those who legitimately paid into it and the lay abouts as well.

The problem with social security (...outside of the obvious...) is that it is passed out to both those who paid into it and those who didnt in the name of enforced compassion for our disadvantaged brothers. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is state enforced robbery from the haves to give to the have nots (...and wouldnts (..."wouldnt work" and "wouldnt save", that is...). Simple economic redistribution. An idea antithetical to a liberty loving people.

If i wuz a young guy(...or gal...); i wouldnt count of social security for my "golden years" retirement. Ya better start investin now.

Hows that for stirring up a hornet's nest?

libertarian leroy and admirer of old otto

Edited June 3, 2011 by leroy
spellin!!!!

[bajabuc]

Investing in what? Tell me what would be a secure investment for the future. Banks...less than 1% interest. Stock Market...it's heading for another fall. Property values are going down. Oil?...it's nearly gone. American Manufacturing?...do we have any left? Agriculture? I'm sorry, that's been sold as another subdivision. Gold? Nixon took us off the gold standard. Just what's going to be worthwhile to invest in? Guns...??? They're trying to take those away.

[Caster]

Great points from everyone. Great discussion, but this discussion travels a road with an abrupt end. That end is "What will be done?" NO, not what could be done, What WILL be done. The answer......NOTHING. That's right. Nothing will change [for the better] because the type of men capable and willing to remedy this issue are long extinct. I'm sure there's plenty of patriots who'd love to do something but it's a cult of lemmings, none willing to lead; all waiting to follow. There's nothing or no one to rally to, no cohesion among strict believers of the Constitution, and therefore nothing will be done. Nothing of any measurable value. Just guys like me forever complaining about it. Men in this country have not the stomach for a real solution. Remember, this country was founded on a technical charge of treason. Justified or not, that's what it was.

I'd love to be wrong, but all that will ever be done in this country by anyone is to continually pour oil into a motor with a rod knocking.

[bajabuc]

Finally...Caster..I'm wid chu.

[Caster]

Well praise the Lord that's worth something.

[leroy]

....Investing in what? Tell me what would be a secure investment for the future. Banks...less than 1% interest. Stock Market...it's heading for another fall. Property values are going down. Oil?...it's nearly gone. American Manufacturing?...do we have any left? Agriculture? I'm sorry, that's been sold as another subdivision. Gold? Nixon took us off the gold standard. Just what's going to be worthwhile to invest in? Guns...??? They're trying to take those away. ....

I think the "...investing in what...." question is a fair one. I say invest in the future by voting these sons of satan out. The best investment ya can make is to vote out the SOBs that have caused this problem. There are enough of them to go around and they belong to both parties. More than that, most of us know who they are.

The reason why this country is so far in the tank economically is that weve regulated business to the point where the government is anti-business, we have stopped energy exploration, and we are threatening to have the gummt take over legitimate business (...the pharmacutical and health care industry...).

The sooner ya decide to get rid of these socialist sons of satan, gangster bureaucrats, socialist pukes, and their children; the sooner the economy will heal itself. Folks (...individuals and companies...) that have money, have simply put it in their pockets and are refusing to spend any of it on anything because they are afraid of this stupid government (...and they should be...).

Remember, there is an election in 2012. Vote early and often (...the damned collectiveists will!....)!

leroy

[bajabuc]

I know what would be a secure investment for the future....remember "Air is free" If we keep on, it won't be. There will be huge industrial plants along the oceans making a business out of breaking sea water down to it's chemical parts. The oxygen?...it's transported in pipe lines through meters to your home and you'll pay for it...just like electricity...and the government will tax it.

The waste?...dumped right back into the ocean.

This is a politicians DREAM...make the people pay to breathe!