John Sevier Range

[bajabuc]

Went today...was rushed and only brought my .54 Lyman Flinter. When I got there I opened my Badger Bag and discovered I had O-N-E patch!!! ARRRGGGHHH. It's ok though...It took 4 primings and a ton of messing to get it to shoot and I missed. It doesn't matter if you shoot 100 rounds or just one, you gotta clean them smokepoles and that tooks hours.

To the left of me was a MN44 sounding like the boom of doom. To the right was someone shooting a VERY loud pistol. Just a bucnball and I were leaving a Volvo wagon pulled up and three guys started unloading 91/30s...three trips to get 'em all and they were carrying in 3 and 4 at a time. Laminated stocks on a couple. The last load was in cases so I don't know...but it's my guess they were MN 38's and 44's. I wanted to see Man United kick Barcelona's butt so we left...I shoulda stayed.

[Oh Shoot]

I'm surprised the Range Nazis Marshalls didn't have some rule about taking too long to fire or something, since they have rule about firing too fast. Which is apparently quicker than one shot every 5 seconds.

- OS

[Mike.357]

that freaking place sucks. And it is the RSO's who make it that way.

[Dolomite_supafly]

So many RSO stories from that place, so little time.

They are some decent guys but the idiots out number them four to one. I understand safety but what I hate most is the unwelcomed commentary or instruction on what I need to know to be able to shoot like the sniper they are. When my wife goes they feel the need to hover over her and instruct her on how to properly shoot every gun she pulls out of the case. In most cases it is more of a distaction for her to answer their incessant comments and questions. What they don't realize is she probably has more rounds down range than most of them. Almost all of them are the been there done that kind of guys.

Then there is the taking of peoples brass without asking. I reload everything I shoot so I pick up my brass. I got onto them last time about picking up my brass and they asked how I could prove the brass they took was mine. I then asked if the headstamps were pink. They handed them back very quickly. I guess because none of those manly guys would ever have anything pink. I have watched them make a game out of catching people's brass as it is ejected and putting it in their pockets. Any gun ejecting 30-06 brings them all over like vultures. They run it like their own personal brass supply depot.

Had a RSO say the LC brass I was using was the best brass because it was made in Tennessee. I said it wasn't and he argued saying he knew it was and that I was wrong. He went on to explain by saying that LC stood for Lenoir City and that is why everybody wants the brass. I chuckled and let him know LC stood for Lake City. He got a look on his face like a disappointed kid who didn't get the Christmas present he always wanted. He then walked off a bit bewildered as he closely inspected my piece of LC brass he had picked up off the concrete.

I was there one day when an RSO asked if he could have my Coke bottle when I was done. I said sure thinking it was for a spit bottle. When done I handed it to him and he said great, now I can build a silencer. I watched him stuff it with tiolet paper then duct tape it to the barrel of a pistol. After which he proudly showed it off to everyone up and down the firing line. He declared that it was legal to the crowd that had amassed for his first test shot. And then he fired it and it seemed to imress some of the shooters. Probably enough that several of them now have a Coke bottle silencer that the RSO declared legal. That will not be a defense when they get caught and sentenced to 10 years in the nearest federal "pound me in the a**" facility.

The final straw in the whole thing is this. They have an agreement, or at least did, with the Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts get all the scrap brass to recycle and use to help fund the local troop. Sounds like a good deal except there is one RSO that takes a lot of the brass. He then trades the brass to a local shop for parts and accessories. I know this because I watched him digging through the can as I was leaving the range one day. About an hour later he shows up at the shop with a box saying he got a lot of useable brass that day and traded it for some parts. He is a personable guy but in the end he is taking funds away from the boy scouts and using it for his own gain.

As bad as the RSO's are try listening to some of the shooters, they are 10 times worse. Like I never knew a 17 HMR fired a bullet at over 5,000 fps. And that the only thing left of a ground hog after getting hit would be the teeth. Or the usual "A 45 ACP will rip you in two if hit with it". And another common one among AR shooters is "An AK 47 is only accurate to 25 yards".

My canned response to most people, including RSO's, who are there talking crap is "whatever" and then walk away unless it has something to do with safety. I have tried educating them but I guess I don't know what I am talking about because their cousin's brother's stepfather, who worked with a WWII vet told them it was so.

Dolomite

[Oh Shoot]

My fav story is very simple.

Me and TGOer 70below were standing there "talking" during firing on the line, both of us wearing muffs. Loudly, of course. RSO comes by and tells us to hold it down, people are trying to shoot.

I kid you not.

- OS

[dou44]

they can have all my left overs because most of it is ww2 surplus and cannot be reloaded and alot of it is only copper washed

[Beltaine]

Sounds like my first trip there would be my last.

I've always been fortunate enough to have private land to go shooting on. Going to a range makes me nervous as it is, having a bunch of morons hovering over me would make it a no deal.

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[pcrc11]

"Almost all of them are done that been there done that type of guys"? I am not defending them (RSO's), but that sounds no different than any place a bunch of gun people congregate, rather it be a gun show, gun range or even a gun forum.

[pcrc11]

As to brass. It is my undrstanding that it is recycled and money is used to buy new materials for target backdrops. Dont know how the RSO obtained entry into the brass containers as they have been padlocked far as long as I have been going out there.

[greenego]

This range is 5 mins. from my house. I tried the range. Was also told I shot too fast. Tried skeet shooting. They acted like I was a burden as I had never shot before and didn't know what I was doing. Needless to say i have not been back. Norris is the place for me.

[LI0NSFAN]

Sorry about the m44, if it makes you feel better after about 60 rounds I had to stop. The guys with all the 91/30's fired each gun about 2-3 time and left. It was a fun day at the range, but the RSO's got excited easily. The side we were one was ok with the rules but the crowd on the other side was a little less compliant with the rules. Sorry I didn't say hi, I could not figure out where I recognized you from.

[Moped]

Hmmm, I shot over there several times a year (it's close by) and I've never had a problem with the RSO's at all. Sounds like something has changed. They like to come by and check out what I bring, but they've always been courteous and helpful.

[pcrc11]

This range is 5 mins. from my house. I tried the range. Was also told I shot too fast. Tried skeet shooting. They acted like I was a burden as I had never shot before and didn't know what I was doing. Needless to say i have not been back. Norris is the place for me.

Dont confuse the bench rest RSO's with the Shotgun Range RSO's. Two totally different entities. My guess is it was the other shooters that may have been impatient with you, not the RSO who "VOLUNTEERS" his time so people like you can have a safe place to shoot and learn how the shotgun venues are shot. There is not one single shotgun RSO out there that will not spend time with you and teach you how to shoot to the best of his ability.

[bajabuc]

Sorry about the m44, if it makes you feel better after about 60 rounds I had to stop. The guys with all the 91/30's fired each gun about 2-3 time and left. It was a fun day at the range, but the RSO's got excited easily. The side we were one was ok with the rules but the crowd on the other side was a little less compliant with the rules. Sorry I didn't say hi, I could not figure out where I recognized you from.

I'm not complaining about the boom...that handgun down past me hurt my ears...The worst two guns for noise have been my ruger blackhawk in 30 carbine...I didn't keep it...and a CZ52... OMG! Well...and the time I shot at a prairie dog out the passenger window and it was closed...THAT was LOUD and STUPID!

[bajabuc]

I'm joining Norris First of July. It's gonna po my buddy bucnball...he's trying to get back on as a RSO...he let his expire 2 years ago.