The Trump for president?

[HillbillyMafia]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110407/ts_yblog_thecutline/trump-brings-media-blitz-to-nbc-steamrolls-meredith-vieira-on-birther-issue if l;ink doesnt work, its Donald Trump interview from the Today show with Meredith

Nakes some good points about making americans proud to be Americans again.

Dont know if hes the right man for the job either, but he has some very good experience in the corporate world instead of the cesspool of Chicago politics. Hope it doesnt end up being another Ross Perot "divide and conquer" campaigain

Edited April 8, 2011 by HillbillyMafia

[G27]

I like the fact he knows how to run businesses successfully. I also like the fact that he's more concerned with the US than other countries. Don't know enough about him to comment one way or the other regarding him running for president, but I think he'd fearlessly address the issues facing us right now.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I like Trump, and I don't think he's a spoiler like Perot was. It's still early.

[Caster]

I'd vote for him if I can get a video of him telling Hillary and Nancy "You're Fired!"

[Reservoir Dog]

I was on the fence about Trump, until he started on that crap about Obama's citizenship. That stuff makes us conservatives look like a bunch of ****ing idiots. We need someone to focus on real issues, not this birther crap. No way in hell I would ever vote for Trump.

[G27]

I was on the fence about Trump, until he started on that crap about Obama's citizenship. That stuff makes us conservatives look like a bunch of ****ing idiots. We need someone to focus on real issues, not this birther crap. No way in hell I would ever vote for Trump.

Yah, because if it turned out Obama wasn't legal to be president, that wouldn't be a big deal at all. And there's ZERO reason to suspect that maybe he isn't. Nope, none at all.

[Reservoir Dog]

Yah, because if it turned out Obama wasn't legal to be president, that wouldn't be a big deal at all. And there's ZERO reason to suspect that maybe he isn't. Nope, none at all.

FYI: I don't like Obama's politics, didn't vote for him, and want him out as President.

He is a US citizen. The State of Hawaii has confirmed he was born there and that they have his BC on file, and there was even a birth notice in the local newspaper days after the birth. There is absolutely no credible evidence to the contrary. Just a bunch of nuts running around making accusations.

The last time I checked, someone is innocent until proven guilty. If you have to good, credible, verifiable evidence, please post it for us all to see. I have asked that in other threads about this issue, and so far, nobody has presented anything. Big surprise.

If Trump gets the nomination, and wants to go around spewing that crap, without any supporting evidence (which I have yet to see him present), then Obama will be one step closer to being re-elected. We need to focus on the real issues at hand: terrorism, deficits, economy........not made up stuff from ultra right-wing fantasy land. Geez!

[Caster]

I think AR-15's are better than AK-47's.

[Armed Aviator]

I think the reason that he doesn't want to produce his birth certificate is that it probably lists his race as White!

[G27]

FYI: I don't like Obama's politics, didn't vote for him, and want him out as President.

He is a US citizen. The State of Hawaii has confirmed he was born there and that they have his BC on file, and there was even a birth notice in the local newspaper days after the birth. There is absolutely no credible evidence to the contrary. Just a bunch of nuts running around making accusations.

The last time I checked, someone is innocent until proven guilty. If you have to good, credible, verifiable evidence, please post it for us all to see. I have asked that in other threads about this issue, and so far, nobody has presented anything. Big surprise.

If Trump gets the nomination, and wants to go around spewing that crap, without any supporting evidence (which I have yet to see him present), then Obama will be one step closer to being re-elected. We need to focus on the real issues at hand: terrorism, deficits, economy........not made up stuff from ultra right-wing fantasy land. Geez!

And for the record, I'm not a birther.

But I do think it odd he would spend so much money and energy to not show his long form birth certificate.

I just think it's hilarious that over THIS you'd decide not vote for someone. Seems incredibly superficial to me, especially if (*IF*) the birthers turn out to be correct.

If that happened, all of the sudden it IS a big time issue, isn't it?

[mav]

I just think it's hilarious that over THIS you'd decide not vote for someone.

+1

I am not a birther either, however, I am skeptical in regards to whether he was born in the US. I don't know why so many have a problem with people investigating the matter. It doesn't bother me in the least. If Trump wants to use his money and investigate the issue then more power to him.

I don't really trust Trump, but I do find it refreshing that he will speak his mind and not b.s. around a question. I would vote for him over Romney or Huckabee. I would almost consider voting for Obama if Obama was running against Huckabee. That is how much I dislike the man.

[I_Like_Pie]

If anyone wants Obama for 4 more years....A Trump or Palin (or even Trump/Palin) ticket is a sure fire way to make this happen.

I will not vote for a Democrat in a presidential election, and check whoever is in the Republican running. If either one of these circus clowns is to the right of that republican box....Obama will win again.

Believe this or not....But mark my words this is the situation at hand. You can refer back to this post after the election in a couple of years and I will gladly bake a crow pie to anyone who wants to try and prove me wrong.

[Reservoir Dog]

Well, Obama has been in office for over 2 years, and started running for President probably a year before the election. So, the birthers have had over 3 years to come up with evidence for their accusations. So far, nothing. Not one single piece of verifiable, credible evidence.

But I do think it odd he would spend so much money and energy to not show his long form birth certificate.

I don't find it odd at all. I would not want my long form BC spread all over the internet for anyone to see, and use for whatever means they want. Would you? Obama has released the short form BC, which carries the same weight of law as the long form. Just like the short form that TN issues carries the same weight as the long form. He has done all he needs to do. He (or anyone else) should not be forced to release more personal info in order to satisfy someone's baseless accusations.

I just think it's hilarious that over THIS you'd decide not vote for someone.

I never said this was the only issue. As I stated earlier, I was already on the fence with Trump........meaning I have as many things to dislike, as I do to like. The birther crap was just nail in the coffin. Anybody dumb enough to buy into that, is not someone I would vote for.

[mav]

If anyone wants Obama for 4 more years....A Trump or Palin (or even Trump/Palin) ticket is a sure fire way to make this happen.

I don't believe that. We ran with the epitome of moderate Republican in 2008 in John McCain. During that election cycle everyone was saying that we had to go with a moderate like McCain if we wanted to win. Well... Guess that didn't work out so well, did it? If Palin hadn't have been on his ticket, Obama would have beat the pants off him.

If we do not have a conservative firebrand running in 2012 that people can get excited about, then I don't think we stand a chance at winning unless the economy and everything else turns for the worse.

[Guest Bluemax]

I think the reason that he doesn't want to produce his birth certificate is that it probably lists his race as White!

I agree

[Oh Shoot]

....The last time I checked, someone is innocent until proven guilty. If you have to good, credible, verifiable evidence, please post it for us all to see...

Btw, guess who did have to produce his actual birth certificate? Yep, John McCain.

- OS

[Oh Shoot]

I like the fact he knows how to run businesses successfully....

Including filing bankruptcy on some of them at least three times. It probably WILL be important to know how to do that pretty soon.

- OS

[Reservoir Dog]

Btw, guess who did have to produce his actual birth certificate? Yep, John McCain.

- OS

Moot point. Obama has produced his BC, as well, issued by the state of Hawaii. Makes no difference if it is a short form or long form, they both mean the same thing. Either way, the state of Hawaii is certifying that he was born there. If we were talking about anybody else, that would be satisfactory. But, for some reason, not for Obama.

My statement about innocent until proven guilty was directed at these "birthers" who make the claim that he was born outside the US. They provide no proof whatsoever of their accusations, but demand that Obama provide proof refuting their claim. When he ignores that crap (as I would, too), they accuse him of hiding something. Give me a break! Gladly, that is not how it works in America. You want to accuse someone of something? Fine. Back it up with some facts.

[Oh Shoot]

Moot point.

Well, we are mooting here.

Obama has produced his BC, as well, issued by the state of Hawaii. Makes no difference if it is a short form or long form, they both mean the same thing.

No they don't. Short form could be forged, doesn't have hospital/doctor/etc, no signatures of anyone who was present at birth.

- OS

[Glenn]

Even a birth certificate doesn't prove anything unless it is signed by the Dr. and has an official seal. My mother in law was born at home so had no birth certificate. When she needed a passport she was able to get a birth certificate. There was no proof that she was born here, but now her BC says she was.

Glenn

[Raoul]

I'm beginning to wonder if I was born here.

[kieefer]

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/national-politics-legislation/51574-trump-president.html

There are better choices but consider the general public is more concerned with who wins AI, Trump may have a good chance, sadly IMO.

On a happy note, the Oprah won't be backing the King.

Edited April 8, 2011 by kieefer

[Oh Shoot]

I'm beginning to wonder if I was born here.

Good point. If it weren't for the actual terrain, the country is quite alien to me.

- OS

[Raoul]

Good point. If it weren't for the actual terrain, the country is quite alien to me.

- OS

Amen brother OS.

[mav]

To my understanding the governor of Hawaii made it his top priority to produce Obama's birth certificate to combat the birthers. I haven't heard any news that he was able locate it.

What I don't understand is why there has been such an impassioned defense in this thread regarding Obama's birthplace. I know it was stated that "birthers" make conservatives look like "****ing idiots". I don't think that is the case at all.

I have no idea where Obama was born. I am skeptical that he is a natural born citizen based upon his behavior, such as spending millions of dollars fighting lawsuits on the matter. Even though I have my doubts on his eligilbity status, I do not scour the internet daily in hopes of finding some tidbit of information that either confirms or erases my doubt.

That said, I do not have a problem with people digging into this issue, nor do I have a problem being associated with them just because they happen to be conservative. I would much rather have a "birther" on my side who is a strict conservative constitutionalist versus some liberal country club republican. Keep in mind that the democrats are not solely to blame for the mess we are in. A lot of moderate republicans (RINOs) have been voting right along with them over the last several decades. Personally, I think RINOs have made conservative republicans look more like "****ing idiots" than birthers just because both the conservative and moderate/liberal are linked by a ® after their name.