DOT to require cameras in cars

[DRM]

I think you should read my post that was right above your first one where I said that it shouldn't be required.

Yeah, I read that. So? This thread *is* about the government wanting to mandate this, correct? So that's what we are discussing, correct?

[E4 No More]

Yeah, I read that. So? This thread *is* about the government wanting to mandate this, correct? So that's what we are discussing, correct?

The topic sure wasn't about people "focusing" on those cameras either. As far as the govenment mandating them is concerned we are in agreement, so what's the problem?

[oldogy]

My motorhome has the backup camera and I like it, very useful. I leave it on all the time, check it frequently to make certain the jeep is trailing ok. I find I use it as much as I do the side mirrors. But, I do not need the government telling me how to equip a vehicle, let the market decide.

oldogy

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I wonder if there is any law that currently allows the DOT to mandate

something like this, or is this another

scam with GM, like their attempt to

mandate daylight running lights?

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[Guest HvyMtl]

I do like the system with the sensors. Beeps when you get close to things. Great stuff. Cameras. Well. I see issues with cost, and depth perception on a small video screen.

As for Onstar. NO. Do not get it. Onstar has the ability to trace and shut your car down...

[Guest mosinon]

I love the idea of a backup camera. The crappy salesman who didn't sell me a Honda Pilot last time I bought a car didn't see the benefit for people with kids.

And, as cars get more aerodynamic it becomes more useful.

All that noted why is this something that should be legislated?

[DaveTN]

As for Onstar. NO. Do not get it. Onstar has the ability to trace and shut your car down...

It also has the ability to call when help when you are bleeding to death and can’t. But yea, don’t get it if you fear that some government agency has an interest in tracking you or disabling your vehicle.

[tnhawk]

A backup camera or sensor may be a good option, but shouldn't be required by DOT.

[E4 No More]

It also has the ability to call when help when you are bleeding to death and can’t. But yea, don’t get it if you fear that some government agency has an interest in tracking you or disabling your vehicle.

Actually, there was a story awhile back saying GM uses it to track and record your speed so that they can use the data to void your warranty.

[KahrMan]

Actually, there was a story awhile back saying GM uses it to track and record your speed so that they can use the data to void your warranty.

How does speeding void your warranty?

[E4 No More]

How does speeding void your warranty?

You are driving it in a manner that is not intended, I guess. Perhaps exceeding the posted speed limit is considered abusive treatment? High RPM read-outs could certainly be considered excessive.

In the 70's I thought it was odd for Ford to sell my brother-in-law a tricked-out 4x4 Bronco that was obviously set up to go off-road, but taking it off-road voided its warranty. With Onstar they could also tell if you went off road.

[Oh Shoot]

I've been in a few cars with BU cameras. FWIK, the cameras are only on when the car is in reverse.

Generally wired through reverse only, many can be user selected for constant on.

Mine at FedEx Ground was such.

90% of FedEx accidents are backing related. I suspect similar with general public, though this doesn't necessarily correlate with serious/fatal accident rate.

- OS

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I bought an inexpensive bu camera to put on old dad's car (for step mom to backup with better visibility). The instructions with that camera explained that if the camera is on all the time that it would eventually overheat and burn out the CCD sensor in the camera. So it HAD to be connected via the backup lights so it would only be turned on when in reverse. Perhaps this is a design limitation on quite a few of the inexpensive backup cameras, since they most likely all come from the same chinese factory?

Dad's RV has an always-on rear camera. I wouldn't want to drive that road barge without a rear camera. It is a few years old with a small fuzzy screen. Seems temperature and vibration dependent. Sometimes the picture is clear and sometimes it is fuzzy and washed out. Since the RV has huge front windshield with plenty of top space above the road viewing area, I want to eventually put a pretty good camera and big bright LCD monitor on that beast, for safety. My eyes don't work well on teeny-tiny monitors any more.

[greyofk]

A backup camera can be enabled or disabled via CAN command as any other equipment in a car. On star receiver can issue such command. However GM cars do not have any transcoder to transmit video data via On star.

Speaking of speed monitoring. GM can measure the speed with wheel speed sensors that installed on each wheel. This information available via On star. They can also detect number of passengers with airbags occupancy sensors. They can even count how many times you open and close the car's doors and windows with door zone module.

All these unnecessary toys has nothing to do with spying on you. Car manufacturers make and install them to inflate the car price and get more profits

[Guest Chattanoogan]

<tinfoil>The screen is only on then in most OEM setups - but you have no idea when it is actually filming... and recording...</tinfoil>

Just put some duct tape over the lens... :-)