Took a long lunch today...

[Motasyco]

M&Ps are awesome guns!

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[mikegideon]

I love M&P's. I have to admit that I'm new to Glocks. I have been pretty deep into both. I have installed all the Apex parts in my M&P, and have done the .25 cent trigger job on my Gen 4 Glock. Can't argue with the reliability of either platform.

Couple if significant differences (in my view)... The M&P sear is a machined part. The Glock sear is part of the stamped trigger bar. The trigger itself on the M&P is smooth, and much more comfortable than the scissor design of the Glock trigger. The Glock has a very well defined reset that you can feel. The M&P doesn't without adding the Apex RAM upgrade. With the Apex parts, the reset on the M&P is about as short (maybe slightly shorter) than the Glock.

Since I don't remember much about my M&P trigger before the upgrade, it's tough to comment on a stock comparison. I know the Apex parts shortened the reset. I really prefer the modified M&P to the stock Glock, but it has a little over 100 bucks worth of aftermarket parts.

EDIT: With S&W giving Glock some serious competition these days, I expect both to get better. That's good for us.

Edited March 17, 2011 by mikegideon

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

Reading another thread reminded me of this, so I thought I would ask.

Loading the full 10 rounds into the Glock was extremely difficult. Rounds 9 and 10 really didn't want to get in there. I pretty much resorted to working to get 9 in, getting that one into the chamber, then dropping the mag to reload 9 (which was then 10). I didn't have that problem with any of the other guns (not that I would, as I was loading them to far less than capacity), but I've also never come across any other gun that was so hard to get the last couple rounds into. Even brand new magazines haven't given me this much trouble!

Was this unusual, or is it typically pretty hard to get these things fully loaded?

[mikegideon]

All 3 of my mags are hard to load. I think that's why they include the cheesey mag loader. I use an Uplula, which makes all mag loading easier.

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

All 3 of my mags are hard to load. I think that's why they include the cheesey mag loader. I use an Uplula, which makes all mag loading easier.

Good to know. I figured a rental gun would have been as broken in as you're going to get, so I was really surprised at how difficult it was. Too bad the range didn't supply a loader with the rental.

[mikegideon]

On my Glock's first trip to the range, I was next to a guy that had a new G27. I noticed he was really struggling to load his first mag, so I loaded all 3 of his. Get you an Uplula. They're not cheap, but you'll never be sorry you bought it.

[Fyrguy]

On my Glock's first trip to the range, I was next to a guy that had a new G27. I noticed he was really struggling to load his first mag, so I loaded all 3 of his. Get you an Uplula. They're not cheap, but you'll never be sorry you bought it.

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