At work with a gun questions

[Guest rocktheglock]

so I work at a retail store. and for the past 6 months I have been carrying my pistol. A fellow worker seen my pistol a few weeks ago and was wanting to ask that I know I am not so post to carry i.e. policy But anything that could get me arrested? this is a part time job and could care less if I get fired. I am the only employee in the back after 8pm. The front door has no sign... Whets your thoughts?

Edited March 2, 2011 by rocktheglock

[Jonnin]

If you have no sign on the door, you can carry it without being arrested. However if it violates company policy, you can be fired for it. If they want to make a case for it, you may be able to be sued or something as well (endangerment or some BS). Most likely, you would just be fired: I do not think it breaks any laws outright if you have a permit and its not posted, but you have no defense if fired either, and that will look VERY BAD to your next employeer and it makes ALL LEGAL CARRY FOLKS LOOK BAD.

[Guest bkelm18]

No you are not breaking the law, only company policy.

[Guest rocktheglock]

thanks, the only reason I have it on my person is for the crazy people and with all the money at night sitting in the register. It would be a easy way to make some fast cash and bust out the fire escape door

Edited March 2, 2011 by rocktheglock

[Jonnin]

thanks, the only reason I have it on my person is for the crazy people who get a bad back ground check back and with all the money at night sitting in the register. It would be a easy way to make some fast cash and bust out the fire escape door

Its not your money. Walmart does not want you to protect it. Let the guy steal it. I don't have an answer for your self defense if someone goes nuts, whatever the reason, but everyone in a crime-approved-zone has that same risk. I would suggest, if attacked due to a background check, just say OK OK, surrender, and let him have the gun. Here again, walmart does not want you to fight, they want you to let the store be robbed instead, so oblige them.

[Guest rocktheglock]

I see why employees carry at gun stores

[DRM]

Read. Your. Employee. Handbook.

[Guest Sprowse]

Good luck getting another job if you get fired for carrying against company policy.

[mikegideon]

Good luck getting another job if you get fired for carrying against company policy.

Last time I checked, they can't give the reason for firing you to a potential employer. They MAY be able to say you were fired for cause. I'll have to check with the HR folks in my company to see if it's law or just our policy. I don't work for walmart.

Edited March 1, 2011 by mikegideon

[ftncityfatboy]

I see why employees carry at gun stores

when people carry at work it usually is not to protect the contents of the store rather to protect themselves. Store items are insured. Your permit only gives you the right to carry for personal protection.

[RobertNashville]

Quite simply, unless a property is properly posted per Tennessee State law, there is NO criminal offense for you carrying while at work. As has already been stated, however, an employer can most certainly fire you based on your violation of company policy (not that an employer truly needs much of a "reason" in a right to work state; assuming of course that they aren't violating EEOC/discrimination laws).

I work for an employer that does, as a matter of company policy, even allow us to have weapons anywhere on company property, including our vehicles...frankly, I hope some version of the current "parking lot bill" gets passed). In the meantime, I don't carry to/from/at my work. That said, if I truly felt the need to carry on the job just to be safe I would also be looking for another job (fully understanding that often isn't easy to do, especially in a struggling economy).

Especially sad about Wal-Mart is that they don't even seem to want employees to be able to defend their own lives even when they are in intimate danger (given a recent news story)...I can understand you carrying to protect yourself but given their attitude, I certainly would never risk my life to protect their money/property.

Edited March 1, 2011 by RobertNashville

[Guest rocktheglock]

the reason is for me, and not them I could care less about them... all I want to do is go home to my family. I would never use them as a referral anyway. I have a full time job during the day and this job is only for extra spending cash.

[Guest Broomhead]

I'm fairly certain that it is a law that a prospective employer can only ask how you left the employment of a previous employer, ie. quit, laid off, or fired. There are two questions the prospective employer can ask, they can ask if you worked for the previous employer, and how you left their employment. However, there is nothing stopping the previous employer from disclosing any other information they feel is important.

I would suggest that you stop carrying at work; unless you just want to be fired. If you absolutely must carry, then I suggest you get a mouse gun/pocket gun such as a Kel-Tec P-32, P-3AT, or PF-9, a Ruger LCP or LCR, a Taurus 709 or TCP, a S&w Bodyguard in 380ACP or 38 Special, Rohrbaugh R9, 380, or Robar, IO Inc Hellcat, etc. This is just my opinion, YMMV.

[Guest Keinengel]

I used to work nights at a gas station in town and I would carry every single day. It was against company policy of course but the manager came in only once a week and otherwise I would be alone outright. To be honest I wouldnt be worried about getting robbed/attacked so much If I worked in a wally world but a gas station In the middle of the hood at 2 AM is another story.

[TGO David]

Since no one else has asked... how exactly did your co-worker come to see your firearm?

[Guest rocktheglock]

he reached around me and felt it. At the time i was carrying a Kahr PM9. He was impressed on how I could hide it. He never knew I had it. I have been working with him for about 1 year. I also carry a LCP sometimes.

[Guest rocktheglock]

So I still want to carry my pistol for my safety but I also want to be legal. I had checked the policy and it says its not allowed. No signs in place for the customers. All day people come up to the counter with pistols showing. So would you all still carry or ???

[RobertNashville]

So I still want to carry my pistol for my safety but I also want to be legal. I had checked the policy and it says its not allowed. No signs in place for the customers. All day people come up to the counter with pistols showing. So would you all still carry or ???

If there is no posting IAW TN state law then the word "legal" doesn't apply.

In any case, there isn't a single person here who can or should answer that question for you.

You are the one who seems to be in fear for his life...You are the one who's job is potentially on the line. No one else will be out of work if you get fired and no one here can know how legitimate your fear is or would be directly impacted if you were killed by a pissed-off customer.

[Jonnin]

So I still want to carry my pistol for my safety but I also want to be legal. I had checked the policy and it says its not allowed. No signs in place for the customers. All day people come up to the counter with pistols showing. So would you all still carry or ???

Criminally you are fine. IE you cannot be arrested, jailed, lose your HCP, or other such things: the sherrif cannot touch you. Walmart can sue you, however, using a shady lawyer who can show that you endangered yourself or others, that you willingly violated policy, or who knows what else.

Personally, yes, I would still carry. So if you ask me what I would do, I would carry. But if you ask me what YOU should do, I cannot tell you: if I give you bad advice that gets you sued, you can then in turn sue me.... such is the way our legal system works right now. So all I can advise for YOU is to not do it, that way if you get burned, you can't point at me...!

The older I get, the less often I am without a gun. I won't enter a place with a no-carry sign, I will not fly, I will not go to a state that does not honor my HCP, etc. There are too many violent idiots out there these days (really for the past 50 years) to do anything else. But thats just my take on it. Thankfully, I do not really like to travel anyway.

[Guest rocktheglock]

I understand, I am just asking peoples options on what they would do. I understand that its my responsibility for my actions. I just wanted to ask what you all think about it if anything was said or done. I will still carry, but ill be prepared for what could happen down the road. I am making sure that I am not breaking any laws, as this is my part time job and would not loose any sleep if I quit

[Armed Aviator]

The older I get, the less often I am without a gun. I won't enter a place with a no-carry sign, I will not fly, I will not go to a state that does not honor my HCP, etc. There are too many violent idiots out there these days (really for the past 50 years) to do anything else. But thats just my take on it. Thankfully, I do not really like to travel anyway.

You can fly armed with me

[TGO David]

I've never had anyone comment on my PM9 when I carry it inside my pocket. Maybe you should invest in a better holster.

[JeffL]

I've never had anyone comment on my PM9 when I carry it inside my pocket. Maybe you should invest in a better holster.

Maybe he just needs to quit getting felt up by his coworkers.

[Guest RevScottie]

Maybe he just needs to quit getting felt up by his coworkers.

^ LOL!

[Guest Plainsman]

Maybe he just needs to quit getting felt up by his coworkers.

And when it does happen, why couldn't you just say it was your cell phone or something? How could they prove it was otherwise and why would they have the ambition to do so? There are reasons that most people who carry don't get "made" very often....one of those reasons is because most of the general public does not generally think people carry guns around! Dress for Success!