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Haven't read it yet, but have enough knowledge of it that it's on my reading list. You're right, should be a vey interesting film.

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Someone our age will probably appreciate more than some younger folks, but it will definitely enlighten.

The book has only sold about 25 million copies since 1957, and is starting to become another best seller again.

Lots of good reason for that.

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I liked Atlas Shrugged. I wouldn't base my life around it any more than I would base my life around Candide or The Stranger but it was pretty good and got me thinking a bit.

That noted, this joked killed me:

"Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs."

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"Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs."

Commie.

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"Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs."

Commie.

Ha! That's funny! I thought most people who are emotionally stunted, sociallly crippled, and uable to deal with the real world got that way from listening to NPR and watching Michael Moore films.

Seriously though, I love the book and have read it several times. She's a bit idealistic and wordy in some parts, but overall I think everyone should at least read the Cliff's Notes. The movie could be good, but I don't have high hopes. Afterall, it's coming from Hollywood, the epicenter of left-coast lunacy. Where will they find actors, directors, and screenwriters who won't butcher the idea to make it marketable?

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I liked Atlas Shrugged. I wouldn't base my life around it any more than I would base my life around Candide or The Stranger but it was pretty good and got me thinking a bit.

That noted, this joked killed me:

"Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs."

:tough:

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I liked Atlas Shrugged. I wouldn't base my life around it any more than I would base my life around Candide or The Stranger but it was pretty good and got me thinking a bit.

That noted, this joked killed me:

"Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs."

No one entertained the thought of suggesting you do anything. I merely provided information.

i provide it to get a taste of your sarcasm and single malt wit.

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IMO, these two qoutes sum up what Atlas Shrugged is about:

"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine"

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

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I read Atlas Shrugged when it was first published and a couple times since. I doubt if I will see the movie as I refuse to support anything coming out of holliwierd.

Sigmtnman, Your take on the book is about right. The second statement is golden. Guess I'm too dense to have ever caught that.

oldogy

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I watched the Reason.TV interview and discovered it is an independent film, whatever that means.

Dagny's not quite what I expected, but they seemed to have pegged Hank Rearden.

Both of those quotes sum it up, very well.

Where have you been hiding, sigmtnman? :tough:

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It's supposed to be three parts, like the book. I hope it all gets done.

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I read Atlas Shrugged when it was first published and a couple times since. I doubt if I will see the movie as I refuse to support anything coming out of holliwierd.

Sigmtnman, Your take on the book is about right. The second statement is golden. Guess I'm too dense to have ever caught that.

oldogy

The Hollywood houses wouldn't touch it. This guy (John Aglialoro) is financing it, promoting it and releasing it completely independently. No "name" actors either. The entire Hollywood establishment is ignoring the film.

If you despise Hollywood, GO SEE this film, just to pee them off.

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If you despise Hollywood, GO SEE this film, just to pee them off.

Absolutely!!! Hollywood runs off the funds YOU give them. By seeing this movie, you couldn't do more to get the liberal's PO'd!

Guest mosinon
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No one entertained the thought of suggesting you do anything. I merely provided information.

i provide it to get a taste of your sarcasm and single malt wit.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with basing a personal philosophy off the book. Plenty of people smarter than me have done it. (I think that is why Rand paul is Rand) Objectivism just isn't for me.

Mostly, I just thought it was a funny joke. I suppose you could change it to work on just about anything.

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I didn't say there was anything wrong with basing a personal philosophy off the book. Plenty of people smarter than me have done it. (I think that is why Rand paul is Rand) Objectivism just isn't for me.

Mostly, I just thought it was a funny joke. I suppose you could change it to work on just about anything.

What did you like about Atlas Shrugged?

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Well it's been awhile sigmtman since I read it. But I always liked philosophical books that were written as fiction. They always seemed more approachable to me than Hume or something. From what I recall it was a pretty good story and, when I was reading it, a compelling philosophy. But then a lot of books I have a strong influence on me right after I read them. I remember being absolutely convinced by Benthemian calculus for probably a few years. But since they are all philosophies it is hard to find exactly one that is objectively true. Despite the efforts of Wittgenstein (I think).

I liked Candide better but thought Atlas Shrugged was more compelling than The Stranger.

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Atlas Shrugged was good, but it was also very boring. There was just way too much character development for my taste. I will probably see the movie and see how faithful they hold to the book.

Guest mosinon
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Atlas Shrugged was good, but it was also very boring. There was just way too much character development for my taste. I will probably see the movie and see how faithful they hold to the book.

I can see your point about character development I guess (it's been some time) but I'm wondering but how can find a very boring novel to be good? A very boring textbook can be great but I am befuddled how very boring fiction can be rated good. I kind of think the point of fiction is to be entertaining, if it fails at that, well, it fails at the primary purpose.

That said, I know that my thoughts on that topic aren't quite right. How do define a good work of philosophical fiction?

I ask only because I'm interested. I've written a few books but fiction seems tough and philosophical fiction seems almost impossible.

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