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Tuesday, February 22, 2011

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"Congress should enact national CCW reciprocity and soon," gun rights expert John M. Snyder said here today.

"A proposal by Reps. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) and Heath Shuler (D-NC) would provide a national standard with which nonresidents of a state may carry concealed firearms in the state," he added. "Congress should give favorable consideration to the bill, H.R. 822, now in the House Judiciary Committee.

"It's about time for Congress to close the national personal self-defense loophole. Congress should enact national reciprocity for citizens issued permits to carry concealed firearms by individual states."

Snyder is Public Affairs Director of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. He is a former National Rifle Association editor.

"An individual who has a state-issued permit to carry a concealed firearm ought to be able to carry in any state in the same way an individual with a driver's license can drive anywhere in the United States," Snyder said.

"Such a law would be of societal as well as personal benefit," he said. "As John R. Lott, Jr. has pointed out in his study More Guns Less Crime, rates of violent crime drop precipitously in jurisdictions adopting ccw laws.

"The states recognize this. Eighty percent of them have such laws on the books. Members of Congress know this. Several have indicated the personal possibility of utilizing the benefits of ccw laws. In addition to Shuler, these include Reps. Jason Chaffetz of Utah, Steve Cohen of Tennessee, Morgan Griffith of Virginia, Allen West of Florida, and Renee Ellmers of North Carolina."

Snyder said "gun-grabbing politicians and media extremists try to manipulate the criminal use of firearms by a few into a platform. They try to use this platform to generate public support for limits on the gun rights of all law-abiding citizens. They appear practically to salivate when an individual misuses a gun in a particularly heinous manner. They're bent on undermining the individual Second Amendment civil right of law-abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms.

"The people aren't buying their junk. Polls show declining support for gun control laws and increasing support for the gun rights of all Americans. Legal purchases of guns and ammunition are at record levels. About 100 million Americans own about 200 million rifles, shotguns and handguns."

Snyder said "what's missing is a law enabling citizens with state-issued ccw permits to carry guns throughout the United States. It's time to close this loophole in the right to self-defense."

John M. Snyder

Manager

Telum Associates, LLC

Arlington, VA

202-239-8005

Gun Law Expert Urges Support for CCW National Reciprocity Bill

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Yeah right.

IL, WI, and 10 "may issue" states are on line 2.

Not to mention most states period, that only recognize certain other states' permits.

- OS

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I wish congress would pass this law taken straight from Kennesaw ,Ga 's law

Sec. 34-21. - Heads of households to maintain firearms.

(a)

In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(;)

Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

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Yeah right.

IL, WI, and 10 "may issue" states are on line 2.

Not to mention most states period, that only recognize certain other states' permits.

- OS

We could get a republican senator to add it to the CR due on March 4th... Then Obama would have no choice but to sign it into law :)

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I strongly believe that when we support federal legislation that dictates to individual states what they must or must not do we are extending federal power over local governments, which is a terrible idea (even when the legislation would go in my favor). However, I do think that CCW permits should fall under the same legal "full faith & credit" recognition as driver licenses, marriages, etc.

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I have no issue with the law, because it's forcing state to follow the 2d amendment closer to what it was supposed to be. Yeah, the feds shouldn't be forcing states, but the states are also ignoring the constitution also (most including their OWN constitution, like TN!)

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I strongly believe that when we support federal legislation that dictates to individual states what they must or must not do we are extending federal power over local governments, which is a terrible idea (even when the legislation would go in my favor). However, I do think that CCW permits should fall under the same legal "full faith & credit" recognition as driver licenses, marriages, etc.

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This was almost passed a year and a half ago or so.

If it is actually passed on second try, there will just be a series of lawsuits from state AGs, much like the Obamacare fiasco.

Wouldn't have much to do with 2A, more about Fed cramming some law down the throats of the states they have no business doing.

Now if they want to pass a law that carry permits themselves violate 2A, okay, let's do that hey hey.

- OS

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I strongly believe that when we support federal legislation that dictates to individual states what they must or must not do we are extending federal power over local governments, which is a terrible idea (even when the legislation would go in my favor). However, I do think that CCW permits should fall under the same legal "full faith & credit" recognition as driver licenses, marriages, etc.

I'm sorry while I'm a very limited powers kinda government, this is EXACTLY what the Constitution calls for, regulating activity between the states. Telling all states that they must honor drivers licenses, or marriage licenses from all other states is perfectly fine, so how exactly can't the federal government require that all states must honor carry permits?

Trust me, if you view this as a slippery slope... you missed that boat by about 75 years... we're way down the hill already on the federal government should stay out of state business by a long shot.

Telling me that growing wheat in my back yard for me to eat is "interstate commerce" is something we should do away with... Telling 2 states they must honor each others licenses when citizens travel, is a lot closer to what the framers intended when they wrote the constitution.

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The moment the Federal government sticks its nose into carry rights is the moment the machine goes into motion to make sure that all states that allow carry or issue permits comply with the requirements in place in, say, California or New York. After all, if you are going to require California and New York to recognize TN's permit then shouldn't TN's permit system be 'on par' with California's and New York's? Of course, the best way to accomplish this smoothly will be to put the permitting system under federal control and create a new branch of the ATF to oversee it. Then, sure, if you can actually get a permit (give up that notion if you are a regular guy or gal and not either rich, extremely politically connected or both) you can carry it in any state where permits are issued. Yeah, big gain there.

C'mon. Look at the Federal Government's track record on actually recognizing gun rights. Do you really think our Federal government, headed by an Obama-led administration, is going to do something that will make it easier to carry a firearm (I seem to recall, during the early part of the last Presidential campaign, Obama saying he would like to do away with carry by private citizens nationwide - funny that some carry supporters want to jump at the chance to give him, or some future anti-gunners, the opportunity to do so.) No, thanks. I'd sooner be able, as a regular citizen, to get a state permit and be able to carry in most states than to have the fedgov open up carry in all states but only in theory or only for those with enough political clout/favors to call in to be able to obtain a permit.

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Who exactly signed the National Parks Carry into law? Oh yeah Obama!

You add the act as an amendment into a time sensitive can't veto bill, and it will get signed into law. And just because there is a federal law that says you must honor, doesn't mean they get to mess with the issuing process, the drivers test in TN is nothing like the drivers test in IN.

I agree waiting to see how Palmer v DC turns out... would be a good idea... but I seriously doubt we won't be facing a new civil war/revolution long before the Federal government gets around to trying to centralize the national handgun permit process.

The moment the Federal government sticks its nose into carry rights is the moment the machine goes into motion to make sure that all states that allow carry or issue permits comply with the requirements in place in, say, California or New York. After all, if you are going to require California and New York to recognize TN's permit then shouldn't TN's permit system be 'on par' with California's and New York's? Of course, the best way to accomplish this smoothly will be to put the permitting system under federal control and create a new branch of the ATF to oversee it. Then, sure, if you can actually get a permit (give up that notion if you are a regular guy or gal and not either rich, extremely politically connected or both) you can carry it in any state where permits are issued. Yeah, big gain there.

C'mon. Look at the Federal Government's track record on actually recognizing gun rights. Do you really think our Federal government, headed by an Obama-led administration, is going to do something that will make it easier to carry a firearm (I seem to recall, during the early part of the last Presidential campaign, Obama saying he would like to do away with carry by private citizens nationwide - funny that some carry supporters want to jump at the chance to give him, or some future anti-gunners, the opportunity to do so.) No, thanks. I'd sooner be able, as a regular citizen, to get a state permit and be able to carry in most states than to have the fedgov open up carry in all states but only in theory or only for those with enough political clout/favors to call in to be able to obtain a permit.

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