question?

[Guest josh123]

ok guys maybe someone can explain this to me...

ok ill use american tactical rifles for example....

you can buy an american tactical mp5k in .22lr for around $350

the american tactical "real" mp5k in 9mm for $1400

i know the 22s are always cheaper but seriously could there really be that many changes in the gun between the 2 calibers to up the price 1000 bucks...

its like this with ar15 style 22s also ..

this might sound stupid but im only 20 and just getting into collecting and shooting and im just not getting it ha

[Guest malbolja]

Off the top of my head, they're not the same gun chambered in .22LR. You can use cheaper materials and less complex systems in a small rimfire than you can in a centerfire weapon designed to endure the rigors of every day carry and combat. Just because they LOOK the same, doesn't mean they are the same internally.

[Guest Xring04]

^^^^ That about sums it up.

[Murgatroy]

Off the top of my head, they're not the same gun chambered in .22LR. You can use cheaper materials and less complex systems in a small rimfire than you can in a centerfire weapon designed to endure the rigors of every day carry and combat. Just because they LOOK the same, doesn't mean they are the same internally.

What he said.

The .22 versions use a direct blowback system and pot metal. Much cheaper and easier.

The 'fullsize' calibers have to use a locking system of some sort and stronger metals.

Big differences in price.

[Guest strelcevina]

price difference of steel is just a few $ more expensive

tools required to finish stronger material are few $ more expensive .

same goes with Full auto guns , take 500$ AR15 drop in 1$ part and suddenly you got 10K full auto EBR

So Most Expensive Part is "Believing that something is better"

[RoDan]

Agreed. It is about value, not cost, per se. The value of something is whatever anyone is willing to pay for it. Look at Barrett-Jackson car auctions for example. Rolex tells time like a Timex. Sometimes, you've just got to pay to play.

[Guest mosinon]

The common thinking is that businesses price the wares they produce as cheaply as possible. This is wrong headed, businesses price whatever they produce to maximize profit. I bet a glock costs 25 bucks to crank out, maybe a little more. I bet a 92fs costs twice as much. So why doesn't Glock just charge 26 bucks and drive beretta out of business?

Here you have to realize that there is a limited market. Imagine people buy 1000 handguns a year. Glock can sell 700 at 200 or all 1000 at 26 bucks. In the first scenario Glock rakes in 140,000. in the second scenario Glock rakes in 26,000. This is an over simplification of course, but the point is obvious selling stuff as cheaply as you can is not always the wisest business move particularly when the market is limited. With guns the market is limited. Guns are a hassle to buy so it isn't lower prices that are going to get people buying your weapon, you have to find another hook. With full auto weapons the market is even more limited.

People will argue about cheap metals and such but the truth is that the cost of making the gun is only slightly related to the cost of the gun. You aren't paying for raw materials or manufacturing cost. You're spending your dough, well mostly, on perceived quality.

[kb4ns]

same goes with Full auto guns , take 500$ AR15 drop in 1$ part and suddenly you got 10K full auto EBR

Well, that's a little different. Supply and demand. The supply of legal (registered) full auto parts for us citizens is very limited and therefor demands a premium price. In non-restricted areas, such as law enforcement agencies, the $500 rifle turns into a $550 rifle.

[~48_South~]

same goes with Full auto guns , take 500$ AR15 drop in 1$ part and suddenly you got 10K full auto EBR

There is generally not much of a price difference between current manufactured full autos compared to their semi auto cousins I have seen MP5's sell for around $700 and M16's for around $500. The only way a $1 part can turn an ar15 into a $10k rifle is if you start off with around a $3k ar15 like an LWRC or something and then the $1 part is actually a $7k part and the reason for that is its limited availability. People dont pay alot for FA's because they think they are better they do it because once all registered machine guns are gone,they are gone. Price reflects the availabilty and demand of the weapon and since the numbers are very limited the price is very high(for private citizens). However if you are a c3 dealer or some sort of law enforcement agency you can typically get FA's cheaper than you can the semi.

[Guest malbolja]

same goes with Full auto guns , take 500$ AR15 drop in 1$ part and suddenly you got 10K full auto EBR

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Apples Vs Oranges. NFA stuff is artificially inflated due to gubmint restrictions.

But if you think you can produce a QUALITY centerfire for the same price as a rimfire, I encourage you to do so.