ATTENTION!! MUST READ- ATF GUN REGISTRATION ATTEMPT

[Garufa]

How come I don't feel all warm and fuzzy after reading that?

Does "caliber greater than .22" mean .22 and above or what? Does that equally apply to Ruger 10/22's, Marlin 60's and evil AR-style Assault Rifles?

It will be implemented in the border states but soon at a dealer near you.

Edited December 22, 2010 by Garufa

[mikegideon]

I just hope the Mexican President is satisfied. I wonder if there's anything else we can do for him.

[Garufa]

I just hope the Mexican President is satisfied. I wonder if there's anything else we can do for him.

Take in the rest of the Mexicans and I'm sure he'd be most happy.

[StPatrick]

Take in the rest of the Mexicans and I'm sure he'd be most happy.

He'd be a lot happier if the cartels weren't manned by Mexican Army deserters who took their duty M-4s with them, along with heavier stuff - they've been found with SAWs, full-auto COMBLOC weapons, and other leftovers from Central American militaries. This effort by the FATF (you know what the 1st letter means) is an attempt to put lace curtains on an outhouse. The only reason US-sold guns end up getting positively traced is that we're the only ones who keep track. Imagine what you could pick up with $100k in Nicaragua - a semi-auto civilian-legal rifle would be small beans, when you can pick up a surplus M2 or PKM (or six) from the leftovers being sold off by yet another semi-failed socialist state.

I'm not an "it's all going to hell, and they'll take our guns" type, but the stubborn insistence on the part of multiple governments to only obliquely confront the issues regarding Mexico's narco-terrorists, at the expense of the free exercise of the rights of US citizens, is disturbing. We have a few reasonable gun laws in this country - enforce them, and force Mexico and Central / South America to do the same with their bad actors. Extra regulations will not stop the flood of murders or guns; it's only polishing a turd. The cloth gets dirty, and you still have a handful of s***.

Yes, I know, I like hyphens and semicolons. It's an idiosyncrasy.

Edited December 22, 2010 by StPatrick

[Guest Grot]

Washington post article on the matter

White House delayed rule meant to stop gun flow to Mexico

Edited December 22, 2010 by Grot

[mcurrier]

There is no "bill" being proposed here. They are planning on the BATF simply instituting a new 'regulation' by executive order of Oblahblah, thus by-passing the legislative process, and against the will of the majority of American citizens.

The part of the proposal that is most troubling is the part where it says:

"to require Federal Firearms Licensees to report multiple sales or other dispositions whenever the licensee sells or otherwise disposes of two or more rifles within any five consecutive business days with the following characteristics:

(a) semi automatic;

( a caliber greater than .22;

and

© the ability to accept a detachable magazine."

Note, it does not say anywhere 'sold to the same individual within five consecutive business days'. The way it is worded would require any dealer who sells more than 2 guns at all in five days (which would be all of them) to report ALL gun sales, who purchased them, thereby instituting a backdoor gun registry of all gun sales. Also, the wording of the actual proposal does NOT specify which states would be affected by this new 'regulation', thus applying to all 50 states (or 57 if you are Oblahblah).

Only news reports are saying/implying that it is only applicable to border states, the actual ATF proposal does NOT say that.