ATTENTION!! MUST READ- ATF GUN REGISTRATION ATTEMPT

[towerclimber37]

This is a special notice to warn you of impending new gun regulation. The ATF has proposed to require gun dealers to provide directly to the ATF the names, addresses, and serial numbers for every purchase of two or more semi auto, mag fed rifles within a five day period!! They are trying to force this in by January 5th, without any approval from Congress, calling it a needed "emergency" regulation. This is backdoor registration of guns and gunowners. Here is a quote from the notice by the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) regarding this burdensome and illegal move:

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is moving to require federally licensed firearms retailers to report multiple sales of modern sporting rifles beginning January 5, 2011. Specifically, the ATF requirement calls for firearms retailers to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of two or more .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles that are capable of accepting a detachable magazine and are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive business days."

We are encouraging everyone to contact the relevant officials to protest this move. The office that approves regulation changes like this that bypass Congress is the Office of Information and Regulation affairs of the DOJ and they can be reached at 202-395-6466. You can call your Senator and Representative at the US Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121.

The NSSF offers the following points to make when calling

1. "Multiple sales reporting of long guns will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement."
   
2. "Long guns are rarely used in crime (Bureau of Justice Statistics)."
   
3. "Imposing multiple sales-reporting requirements for long guns would further add to the already extensive paperwork and record-keeping requirements burdening America’s retailers – where a single mistake could cost them their license and even land them in jail."
   
4. "Last year, ATF inspected 2,000 retailers in border states and only two licenses were revoked (0.1%). These revocations were for reasons unknown and could have had nothing to do with illicit trafficking of guns; furthermore, no dealers were charged with any criminal wrongdoing."
   
5. "According to ATF, the average age of a firearm recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico it’s more than 14 years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought from retailers in the states."
   
6. "Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could have required multiple sales of long guns – it specifically chose not to."
   

Read the full notice by the NSSF here:

http://www.nssfblog.com/atf-<wbr>to-require-multiple-sales-<wbr>reports-for-long-guns/

Read the full ATF document proposing this illegal move here: (PDF)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/<wbr>wp-srv/politics/documents/atf.<wbr>pdf

[Garufa]

And so it begins. Again.

[Guest TargetShooter84]

Oh great, here we go....

[DavidD]

So I guess they don't care about .17 hmr.....This is exactly how the anti's will get more restrictions through, by claiming it's an emergency action to prevent something. Let's hope this attempt fails.

[TNRobocop]

New one to me and I am a dealer....

[Guest mosinon]

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The NSSF offers the following points to make when calling

1. "Multiple sales reporting of long guns will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement."
   
2. "Long guns are rarely used in crime (Bureau of Justice Statistics)."
   
3. "Imposing multiple sales-reporting requirements for long guns would further add to the already extensive paperwork and record-keeping requirements burdening America’s retailers – where a single mistake could cost them their license and even land them in jail."
   
4. "Last year, ATF inspected 2,000 retailers in border states and only two licenses were revoked (0.1%). These revocations were for reasons unknown and could have had nothing to do with illicit trafficking of guns; furthermore, no dealers were charged with any criminal wrongdoing."
   
5. "According to ATF, the average age of a firearm recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico it’s more than 14 years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought from retailers in the states."
   
6. "Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could have required multiple sales of long guns – it specifically chose not to."
   

Read the full notice by the NSSF here:

http://www.nssfblog.com/atf-<wbr>to-require-multiple-sales-<wbr>reports-for-long-guns/

Read the full ATF document proposing this illegal move here: (PDF)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/<wbr>wp-srv/politics/documents/atf.<wbr>pdf

That is the absolute worst list of objections I've ever heard.

1. It will make it harder for law enforcement to work with gun dealers by forcing more underground sales.

This is plainly ridiculous, it has a hassle factor added in. It will certainly make it harder for people to buy weapons. If you're in Congress you know the answer to any problem is a new law or genital groping.

2. Long guns rarely used in crimes

If it isn't "never" it doesn't matter

3. It is tough on gun sellers

So who the hell cares. Certainly not a congressman.

4. Only a small fraction of dealers got their licensed revoked

If they got their license revoked they weren't playing by the rules. With this we could revoke more licenses.

5 and 6 or just incredibly boring. How do you expect your senator to stay awake listening to that?

The secret to selling something to someone isn't pointing out why it is right or wrong, logical or illogical the secret to selling something is highlighting what it can do for them.

So screw all those talking points, they are horrible. Call up your reps and say:

"Take a stand against these ridiculous and useless rules or I won't vote for you. I'll vote for a freaking democrat before I vote for a republican sellout. Take a stand and I'll donate and campaign for you."

Sure, the logic should of the talking points should be enough to sway folks but there is nothing in the logic that helps the congress person. Make it personal and you'll get a much better response.

[Garufa]

Today's Federal Register....

Federal Register | Agency Information Collection Activities: Proposed Collection; Comments Requested

This is the real deal.

[Smith]

BTW - It goes to the local PD and ATF and it is already in effect. Towerclimber, good to see you back. Started thinking you had fallen off one of those towers!

[Jasongar8]

BTW - It goes to the local PD and ATF and it is already in effect.

For multiple handguns. Not long guns.

[Smith]

For multiple handguns. Not long guns.

Ah! Gotcha. Late night comprehension skills are not good!

[Chief07]

Another angle. If one attempt fails they try another.

Seems to me they are un-American.

[Guest oldsmobile98]

What is the "emergency"? The Mexican Gun Canard?

Time for that rogue agency to be ended.

I just had letters mailed to Corker and Alexander about the R.A. Bear manhunt, asking them to investigate it.

But the prime witness, the one personage which the ATF absolutely does not want to answer questions about is R.A. Bear, the child's stuffed toy which they spent two years and at least a million dollars chasing all over the country.

P.S. It wasn't quite two years.

[Guest oldsmobile98]

By the way, thanks for posting this info, towerclimber37.

[Oh Shoot]

What is the "emergency"? The Mexican Gun Canard?....

Guns in Mexican Violence Traced to Texas - Fox News Latino

- OS

[Paletiger13]

ATF needs to be disarmed and closed down. They are the most useless crock of shiaaaat that there is.

Sorry I havnt had a cigarette in a week.

[Paletiger13]

Un-American period!!!

Kinda Communist right? How much could we save the economy by getting them shut down?

[Oh Shoot]

ATF needs to be disarmed and closed down. .... How much could we save the economy by getting them shut down?

Federal pocket change, really, < 1.5 billion/yr -- but every little bit helps.

- OS

[mikegideon]

Guns in Mexican Violence Traced to Texas - Fox News Latino

- OS

One quick look at the numbers in this article shows how f**cking ridiculous our government is. A fraction of a percent make it to Mexico, and they inflict massive stupidity on the entire industry.

[DavidD]

One quick look at the numbers in this article shows how ridiculous our government is. A fraction of a percent make it to Mexico, and they inflict massive stupidity on the entire industry.

Wonder what percentage of illegal drugs could be traced back through Mexico..........

[mikegideon]

Just makes me see red every time I think about that Mexican president trying to dictate gun control in the US.

[bigwakes]

I don't see how this makes any sense. What is the ATF going to do with the info? Come to your house and ask why you needed more than one gun in 5 days?

[Oh Shoot]

I don't see how this makes any sense. What is the ATF going to do with the info? Come to your house and ask why you needed more than one gun in 5 days?

Umm, well....yeah -- that's the only actual investigatory option I can think of.

Course it would be more likely if you bought 5 or 6 per week for a month or more...

And there's only so often you could have that tragic boat accident, eh?

- OS

[bigwakes]

Umm, well....yeah -- that's the only actual investigatory option I can think of.

Course it would be more likely if you bought 5 or 6 per week for a month or more...

And there's only so often you could have that tragic boat accident, eh?

- OS

Now it just seems like our responsibility as Amercians to buy 5 or 6 ARs just to see what they will do. The wife can't say no right?

[Guest HvyMtl]

"Sorry I havnt had a cigarette in a week."

Hang in there Paletiger13, you will be healthier for it...

Hmm. I do think this needs to be investigated, and Congress needs to act to limit this overstepping...

[TNRobocop]

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2010/12/122010-hdqrts-melson-webcast.html

Transcript of ATF Acting Director Melson — Webcast

December 20, 2010

Acting Director Announces Demand Letters for Multiple Sales of Specific Long Guns in Four Border States

Hello, I’m Ken Melson, the Acting Director of <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR>.

A recent initiative by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has caught the attention of national media outlets. I wanted to make sure everyone heard from me about this law enforcement initiative so there isn’t any confusion.

Recently, <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR> announced through the Federal Register our intent to initiate a new Demand Letter requiring the reporting of multiple sales of certain long guns by Federal Firearms Licensees, known as FFLs, in the four Southwest Border States. We took this step as a way to help gain actionable law enforcement intelligence which we believe will help reduce criminal firearms trafficking along the Southwest border.

Before we can actually issue the Demand Letter we must receive approval from the Office of Management and Budget for purposes of the paperwork reduction act. We expect to receive that approval in early January, 2011.

As many of you already know, the goals of ATF’s Southwest border firearms trafficking strategy are:

• •: To prevent violent crime;
  

• •: Ensure the safety of the communities and law enforcement situated along the Southwest Border;
  

• •: And to disrupt and dismantle the firearms trafficking networks responsible for the diversion of firearms from lawful commerce into the hands of the Mexican Drug Trafficking Organizations (DTOs)
  

Since 2006, there has been a significant increase in drug and firearms-related violence in Mexico and along our Southwest border. In response to this increased violence, <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR> has deployed focused resources nationally to prevent the firearms trafficking along the Southwest Border and into Mexico.

According to <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR> trace data, investigative experience, and Mexican law enforcement officials, a large number of rifles are being used in violent crimes in Mexico and along the border. Our new Demand Letter will implement a limited reporting of multiple sales of certain long guns that functions similarly to the current practice of reporting on the multiple sales of handguns. Currently, all <ABBR title="Federal Firearms Licensees">FFL</ABBR>s in the country are required to submit a report of multiple sales to the National Tracing Center when an <ABBR title="Federal Firearms Licensees">FFL</ABBR> sells two or more handguns to the same purchaser within five consecutive business days.

The proposed Demand Letter, which is narrowly circumscribed to meet our objectives, will apply a similar reporting requirement to certain long guns, but with these distinct differences:

First, the reporting requirement will apply only to <ABBR title="Federal Firearms Licensees">FFL</ABBR>s doing business in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California, which are major source states for crime guns seized in Mexico and traced to federal firearms licensees.

Secondly, the reporting requirement applies only to those rifles having all of the following characteristics:

• •: A semi-automatic action;
  

• •: A caliber greater than .22; and
  

• •: The ability to accept a detachable magazine.
  

These specific characteristics subject a very narrow group of long guns that have been identified by <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR> and the Government of Mexico as being involved in violent crimes in Mexico to the reporting requirement.

This reporting requirement would apply to the disposition of all rifles in the inventory of the FFLs exhibiting these characteristics, both new and used.

Third, we propose to implement this initiative as a pilot project for a period of one year.

Taken together, limiting the geographic scope, impacting a limited number of licensees, affecting a specific group of rifles, and limiting the duration of this reporting requirement, form a tailored, discreet, responsible and proactive response to a significant law enforcement issue.

Let me be absolutely clear. The purpose of requiring <ABBR title="Federal Firearms Licensees">FFL</ABBR>s to report the specified multiple long gun sales in these four source states is to identify criminal firearms traffickers, not to prevent the full and free exercise of our Second Amendment rights, or to encumber the <ABBR title="Federal Firearms Licensees">FFL</ABBR>s with burdensome paperwork.

These reports will give <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR> real-time leads for the investigation of gun trafficking. <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR>’s experience in these source states proves that multiple purchases of the described rifles are strong indicators of firearms trafficking to Mexico. By obtaining information about these multiple sales, <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR> increases the likelihood of uncovering and disrupting trafficking schemes before the firearms make their way into Mexico.

I know that <ABBR title="Federal Firearms Licensees">FFL</ABBR>s are good citizens who share <ABBR title="Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives">ATF</ABBR>’s interest and commitment in keeping guns out of criminal hands. Working together we can do that without infringing on the rights of law abiding Americans.