Chamber empty or one in?

[TGO David]

Surprised no one has posted the video of the shop owner getting killed as he was repeatedly shot while trying to chamber a round...

Haven't seen that one. Link?

[G27]

Haven't seen that one. Link?

Crap, figured someone would ask.

Lemme look - it was posted here...

[G27]

Crap, figured someone would ask.

Lemme look - it was posted here...

OK, found it: LiveLeak.com - Jewelery Store Shooting in Agra

[7dogguy]

One in the chamber and full magazine.

[Glenn]

Always one ready.

I have a Ruger Blackhawk that I believe was made in the 60's. I don't know for sure if it was unsafe to carry with one under the hammer. I don't carry it. However Ruger must have thought it was since some time in the 70's (I don;t remember exactly when) Ruger offered to convert these single actions to a transfer bar system. Ruger paid shipping both ways and sent back the old parts in case I want to convert it back to original.

Glenn

[Guest Jamie]

I have a Ruger Blackhawk that I believe was made in the 60's. I don't know for sure if it was unsafe to carry with one under the hammer.

It was. Ruger offered to convert all of their old 3-screw guns to transfer bar for that reason.

[Guest 1010011010]

Full mag, one in the chamber. I briefly carried with the chamber empty when I first started, but as I gained confidence in my equipment, I started carrying chambered. That extra time might just make the difference if something happens.

+1.

I've got no problem if someone's not initially comfortable carrying a loaded gun. It's likely better to have a gun you can load than to have nothing at all. Once you gain enough confidence in yourself and your weapon, you should switch to carrying with one in the chamber.

Anyone who brags that they "Israeli Carry" should probably be schooled that they did it that way because their initial arms had no drop safeties, clumsy controls, and they had to deal with arming a bunch of minimally trained people. "Israeli Carry" developed so people didn't shoot themselves with a holstered gun. There is nothing tacticool about it.

Edited December 18, 2010 by 1010011010
I herped when I should have derped.

[Guest clownsdd]

Kinda late on this but an unloaded weapon is simply a club. Myself: 1 in chamber and full mag. gun is on safety when it's in my holster.

[Guest kirkosaurus]

Surprised no one has posted the video of the shop owner getting killed as he was repeatedly shot while trying to chamber a round...

Obviously you didn't read far enough. Check out post #57.

Unless you train, train, train chambering a round so that you are good enough that you can do it without thinking you should always carry with one chambered.

There is a good chance that not being able to chamber a round under stress could cost you your life like it did this guy (caution: graphic video):

LiveLeak.com - Jewelery Store Shooting in Agra

[Guest 1010011010]

Do we have the backstory on that video to know he's trying to chamber a round rather than, say, clear malfunctions or still has the safety on?

[Glenn]

It seems to me that trying to chamber a round in a "it's time to shoot" situation by a person with limited experiance could lead to a discharge before you were ready. I know I feel like racking the slide is more involved and presents more chance for error under stress than just pulling a loaded gun.

Glenn

[Guest tngw1500se]

Loaded with all the ammo I can stuff in it.

[Guest PSO3106]

Burce Lee? But the way I heard the story is that someone had fired a load with no powder, just a primer and a .44 bullet was lodged in the barrell or, someone had inserted a .44 bullet in the barrel intentually.

Correction; Brandon Lee.

I didn't read all the posts, so if it has been answered, ignore my post. Brandon Lee was a victim of poor weapons handling. There was a dummy round in the weapon, (which is not supposed to have a live primer) that was fired lodging the bullet in the barrel. When a blank was loaded for the firing shot, it had a live charge and fired the round stuck in the barrel.

[bigwakes]

There is no advantage for a trained person with a modern firearm and a quality holster to carry without one in the pipe.

[Guest trigem]

Glock & locked Always ready

[m16ty]

No, he said it was a normal Beretta 92. He did say they were a full load though. My friend said that he did the WWII battle in Oak Ridge this year at the Secret City Festival and just stuck 30.06 blanks in his M1 with no problems. Maybe it has to do with certain weapons. I wonder if my FAL would fire with blanks.

Matthew

I know for a fact that a AR-15 won't cycle with blanks. I've tried it. You have to use a blank firing attachment (it blocks the end of the barrel) to fire blanks.

If you've ever been to a military funeral where they had a 21 gun salute and they fired M16 rifes, you'll notice that they have to maually chamber a round after each shot because the blanks won't cycle the gun.

Handguns could be different though. I don't know but I do know I don't plan on carrying blanks in my carry gun.

[Jonnin]

Its going to depend on the gun at hand. A number of .22 pistols won't even cycle with real ammo, some of them only work well with bigger ammo (like the mini-mags) -- my little S&W escort won't accept any sort of cheap ammo (and sometimes even the better stuff jams it). The same is true of other calibers to a lesser extent, some guns need a more powerful round to cycle properly esp. when new(and some junk guns wont cycle no matter what you do). A 1911 .45 with a target or lighter recoil spring might cycle while a really strong compact one may not. I think any handgun could be modified to work with blanks, but out of the box, its going to be hit or miss for which ones will work. I would suspect the same to be true for any sort of semi or fully auto rifle, etc, that its just going to depend on the model and design.

[Guest jeliggett]

Cocked and locked unless you plan on throwing it.

[Guest tnmale46]

always ready locked and loaded

[adam42]

One in the tube and locked when outside at home, full mag, none in the tube because of grand kids. If you here the bump in the night they will also hear when you put one in the tube; maybe they will rethink and leave.

[Gun Smith]

If you here the bump in the night they will also hear when you put one in the tube; maybe they will rethink and leave.

Or, having heard the warning they may hunker down, wait for you to appear, and drop you in your tracks. They'll know you are armed and the location you are coming from. Just something to think about.

[Spook]

I, like some others, keep one racked now after gaining confidence with the weapon (Glock 23). I don't want to wake up sleepy and have to put one in the chamber. Like those camera guys, I want to point and shoot. So far as having only one hand available I suppose you could put it between your legs to activate slide. Given the probable circumtances I wouldn't want to rely on that....

[Guest President Fernatt]

I'm about to get my Permit and I have thought about doing this. I want to get the feel for it for a couple weeks before I jump right in. I'll just say an extra prayer for everyday I carry without one in the chamber!

[mikegideon]

I'm about to get my Permit and I have thought about doing this. I want to get the feel for it for a couple weeks before I jump right in. I'll just say an extra prayer for everyday I carry without one in the chamber!

Probably a good idea

[Guest Jamie]

Hell, I'd carry with TWO in the chamber if they'd fit...