Handgun Permit Instructors & Schools

[Guest Legally Armed]

This might not be the location to post this information but, thought some of the instructors & schools could benefit from the data.

Most instructors and schools want to know where their advertising money is best spent. Here is a link that will show you every Tennessee County with the number of permit holders in each county & the percentage of each county population with handgun permits. The lower the percentage with handgun permits means more opportunity for you. Look at your county & the counties around you. If you do advertising, this link will help you identify locations where advertising dollars might increase your handgun permit business. This is NOT a push for advertising. It is just a tool that can help you make a better decision and hopefully, more people will get a handgun permit.

http://legallyarmed.com/resources/tn2007handgunstats.htm

[Guest bkelm18]

Wow that's interesting, it shows each person who was denied a permit last year and the reason why.

[et45]

Notice how many had their permits revoked because of restraining orders(order of protection).

Edited January 31, 2008 by et45
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[Guest Mugster]

I couldn't figure out what you guys were talking about. Then i clicked on knox county...i guess thats the only one.

Amazing they'd apply with a record. I wonder how many slip through the cracks.

[Ruprect]

Notice how many had their permits revoked because of restraining orders(order of protection).

It's easier to get an order of protection than it is to brush your teeth in the morning.

[Guest Todd@CIS]

I'm kinda curious about that first denial listing in Knox Co...

[Guest bkelm18]

I'm kinda curious about that first denial listing in Knox Co...

I think that it means that the DoS needed some paperwork (not uncommon) regarding her shoplifting conviction and she failed to turn it in and was denied.

[Guest Todd@CIS]

BKelm18, oh I'm sure you're right...

...but if the original charge was obviously a misdemeanor theft (anything under $500), I'm just wondering why TNDoS would require any paperwork regarding it...her criminal history sheet/backround investigation would show just a misdemeanor charge.

Not that I'm taking up for thieves, but it seems to be a pretty cheesy reason for a denial.

Edited February 1, 2008 by Todd@CIS

[Guest bkelm18]

BKelm18, oh I'm sure you're right...

...but if the original charge was obviously a misdemeanor theft (anything under $500), I'm just wondering why TNDoS would require any paperwork regarding it...her criminal history sheet/backround investigation would show just a misdemeanor charge.

Not that I'm taking up for thieves, but it seems to be a pretty cheesy reason for a denial.

True, but you never know, there could be any number of reasons they needed some paperwork. You know how the gov't is, they loves their paperwork.

[strickj]

i would guess they needed it to find out if a weapon was used

[Guest bkelm18]

Most of the time I hear about paperwork being requested is if a crime was committed in another state and the DoS doesn't have all the information for whatever reason.

[strickj]

Most of the time I hear about paperwork being requested is if a crime was committed in another state and the DoS doesn't have all the information for whatever reason.

not for me.they requested paper work from me about a couple of tickets from way,way back

[Guest Todd@CIS]

i would guess they needed it to find out if a weapon was used

Then it would not be a misdemeanor Theft...it would be a Robbery (a felony, no matter the dollar amount).

My point in all this, and just going from the website, is that there is not a State in the Union where Theft, under $100, is considered a felony.

So, since misdemeanor Theft is not a HCP disqualifier, I wonder why the TNDoS denial.

Edited March 2, 2008 by Todd@CIS

[bteague2]

Male, Age 46, Hispanic, zip code-37912

Reason: Failed to provide documentaion on removal from the US.

This one was under the revoked list, shouldn't it have been prevented from being issued with the proof of citizenship requirement?

[Guest Legally Armed]

The following counties have been added to the 'completed' list: Bedford and Rutherford. Some of the reasons for 'denied' or 'revoked' might be hard to understand but, this is the wording used by D.O.S. when they made the records. When I tried to get explanations well...I won't go into that.

[Mike.357]

nobody from my zip denied or revoked. Is there a list that shows how many permits are in specific zip codes?

[TNRobocop]

They delayed my permit because they needed the final disposition of a misdemeanor charge from 1992.

What was this gross violation you say?

Well right before Desert Storm I got a speeding ticket from the THP. Well I deployed to the sandbox and forgot about it. Bigger things on my mind you know.

Well I was on terminal leave from Ft. Campbell and was driving through Nashville to go home since I lived there then. Well I pass two THP troopers running RADAR on I think Dickerson Pike. Well after I pass them I flash my headlights to let people know they are there.

Well some MNPD car was ahead of me, saw me do it, pulled over until I passed, then lit me up lights and sirens and all that stuff.

Well long story short I got tickets from Driving on Suspended License for not paying the ticket and for the headlight thing I got one for Obstructing Justice.

So I get the original ticket paid, get the license reinstated and go to court. Both charges dismissed, especially since the 2nd charge didn't exist as a charge under law for what I did.

Fast forward to last year when I went to get my permit. The state had no record of the final disposition of the 2nd charge and was delaying me on my HCP. So I had to go to the Metro courthouse, they pulled a paper copy fo the dismissal out of the basement somewhere and made me a copy that I sent to the DOS. A week later I got my permit in the mail. Go figure.

A nice note is that the Metro courthouse people did up the paperwork without me even asking to for the charges to be expunged. I signed where I needed to and about 3 weeks later I get the paperwork in the mail for that stuff signed by a judge and all.

So there are reasons why you get denied/delayed. Even if it is BS reasons.

[strickj]

and for the headlight thing I got one for Obstructing Justice.

yeah,LEO's dont like this and will get you for it,but i remember a couple of cases from tn and ga that was dismissed because it was argued that its free speech(i think)

[Guest TargetShooter84]

Oh wow, I didnt know that there was so many people that got their permits revoked for order of protection in Knox....thats quite high than others.

[Guest flyfishtn]

Notice how many had their permits revoked because of restraining orders(order of protection).

**Threadjack**

BTW, those two are different, legally.

Had to do some research as I thought my BIL might do this to me my wife's Aunt and Uncle after my MIL's death. (he is a jackass).

[Guest shellig]

This is my first post...

On the website it says

Note: The stats on active handgun permits in 2007 are finished. However, the data on denied, revoked, and the reasons for the denied & revoked are not completed. Some counties, I.e. Knox County, have been finished.This is a time consuming project. Check back if your county is not finished. The following counties are finished: Anderson, Bedford, Knox, Rutherford.

so keep that in mind.

[et45]

**Threadjack**

BTW, those two are different, legally.

Had to do some research as I thought my BIL might do this to me my wife's Aunt and Uncle after my MIL's death. (he is a jackass).

I stand corrected however violation of either one is a class A misdomeaner per TN CODE 39-13-113 Edited February 4, 2008 by et45
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