Some of the morons at Comedy Central's Sanity gathering

[Guest 6.8 AR]

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Glad I missed it!

[mikegideon]

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Glad I missed it!

Well, I didn't miss it. The message from the stage was against division. So... maybe you shouldn't have missed it EDIT: Here's a snippet of the moronic stuff...

"This was not a rally to ridicule people of faith, or people of activism, or to look down our noses at the heartland, or passionate argument, or to suggest that times are not difficult and we have nothing to fear," Stewart told the crowd as the rally drew to a close. "They are, and we do. But we live now in hard times, not end times. And we can have animus and not be enemies, but unfortunately one of our main tools in delineating the two broke."

He was speaking of what he called "the country's 24-hour politico pundit perpetual panic conflictinator." It did not cause the nation's problems, Stewart said, "but its existence makes solving them that much harder ... If we amplify everything, we hear nothing."

"There are terrorists and racists and Stalinists and theocrats, but those are titles that must be earned," Stewart said. "You must have the resume. Not being able to distinguish between real racists and tea partiers, or real bigots and Juan Williams or Rick Sanchez is an insult, not only to those people, but to the racists themselves, who have put in the exhausting effort it takes to hate -- just as the inability to distinguish terrorists from Muslims makes us less safe, not more."

Edited October 31, 2010 by mikegideon

[raydog1]

I dvr'ed it. There were some funny moments. It was as non-political as advertised. Mostly it criticized the mainstream media (and I include Fox in that category) and the ridiculous hypercharging of everything they report.

The best moment was the keynote which Mike accurately quoted. Stewart was 100% correct.

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[mikegideon]

Yep. most of the Tea Party I know aren't racist, and most of the liberals I know are hard working folks. Most let the BS from media and politicians sway their opinion about the others.

[Links2k]

Yep. most of the Tea Party I know aren't racist, and most of the liberals I know are hard working folks. Most let the BS from media and politicians sway their opinion about the others.

Hammer meet nail. I agree.

[Smith]

Yep. most of the Tea Party I know aren't racist, and most of the liberals I know are hard working folks. Most let the BS from media and politicians sway their opinion about the others.

Most Nazi's didn't hate Jews, yet the Nazi's killed around 6 million of them. Point is, you are defined by the company you keep. The Tea Party accusations keep changing because they aren't earned or true. Liberals, Socialist, Muslims, terrorist, and politicians have worked hard to earn their identities. The fact Stewart can't tell the difference between liberals and the Tea party movement shows his lack of serious intellect. Add to it the fact he his attacking the machine that makes him anything other than a late night comic is humorous to me.

[mikegideon]

Sorry about that. Attack Stewart if you want.

I agreed with everything he said. The noise really is insane right now. Guess some folks like it and need it.

Edited October 31, 2010 by mikegideon

[Smith]

Stewart is the next generation of a frat boy who had to grow up and get a job and got lucky. Sanity and Stewart are we serious? Yeah there are some issues out there you have to weed through, but dismissing them all because you're too lazy to think it through isn't sanity. That's not directly meant towards you Mike.

I enjoy Stewart for what he is, but people are delusional if they really thinks he's leading serious thought or debate.

[mikegideon]

Well, actually is kinda is directed toward me. I don't let it bug me. We all gotta pick our poison from a bunch of very narrow viewpoints.

[Smith]

Well, actually is kinda is directed toward me. I don't let it bug me. We all gotta pick our poison from a bunch of very narrow viewpoints.

Really wasn't meant directly at you Mike. I just think Stewart is starting to take himself way too serious, much in the same way Beck has (and Beck is heads and shoulders above Stewart). Not that they don't make some good points, but Stewart is far from deep or profound. He's kinda like a political Jerry Seinfeld.

[Will Carry]

I watched it.........The music sucked and it wasn't that funny. I think John Stewart is dead on about the media. They are a bunch of fear mongers. I ain't skeerd I'm armed! I voting Tuesday! I'm voting a straight party ticket. In a city full of liberal dill holes my vote won't count for much, we'll see.

[mikegideon]

Yep, Beck really is deep and profound. Too bad he's making most of it up.

[Links2k]

Yep, Beck really is deep and profound. Too bad he's making most of it up.

Beck is a loon. Stewart admits that he is a comedian. Becks takes himself seriously. The media and polititians are doing a hell of a job scaring and dividing. As usual the American people are swallowing hook line and sinker.

If we would make the polititians do there jobs it would not matter which party held office. People elect their group of idiots and don't demand anything from them.

[mikegideon]

People elect their group of idiots and don't demand anything from them.

Yep. Not gonna change either.

[Guest bkelm18]

I think Stewart is as much of an assclown as Beck, but the message is spot on.

[Oh Shoot]

Yep. most of the Tea Party I know aren't racist, and most of the liberals I know are hard working folks. Most let the BS from media and politicians sway their opinion about the others.

Yeah, and remember, we're only gonna elect an unusual number of Republicans, folks.

You know, Republicans, the other half of the tyranny.

- OS

[mikegideon]

Yeah, and remember, we're only gonna elect an unusual number of Republicans, folks.

You know, Republicans, the other half of the tyranny.

- OS

Six of one, half dozen of the other. Nothing gets better.

[raydog1]

I enjoy Stewart for what he is, but people are delusional if they really thinks he's leading serious thought or debate.

No delusion required to enjoy this. We don't need him to lead anything.

Can't it just be nice to hear some truth for once? I don't care if it's Elmo or Archie Bunker. It's good to hear a popular media personality say, "Maybe more news & fewer apocalypses."

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[Will Carry]

I am so glad you guys see it too! There is hope for America. I'm telling you now. China is a house of cards. One good breeze will send them down. We can beat these guys! I don't understand why we are so afraid of them. I will work harder and smarter than any Red Chinese MF!

[Guest HvyMtl]

watched some of it. Some of the signs were funny. More so than the "comedy" they were putting on.

Stewart is spot on with the media.

I wish I had taped 60 Minutes tonight. Had a Iowa voter on - female mid-60's simply state how politics are.

She stated this: "The Democrats say something and the Republicans won't listen. And the Republicans say something and the Democrats won't listen."

She was spot on with the present state of affairs with the government.

They also had the fellow who wrote the tax breaks and tax resorting done by President Reagan on. He stated the present level of giving tax breaks and spending cannot be sustained. He also blamed both parties for their foolish attempt to continue to give tax breaks when the present level of taxes does not cover the budget...

[Rightwinger]

How about just lowering the budget.....hmmmm, then the taxes will cover it.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I saw a few clips. What I saw wouldn't make me want to see more. Different strokes. If some folks like Stewart and Colbert, its fine with me. Even if I could tolerate crowds of any sort, if I can't make it thru a few minutes of Stewart or Colbert on TV, it might be difficult to tolerate that schtick for hours.

The "Smugapalooza" video which 6.8 linked is witty editing. Showed some people full of themselves. OTOH some of Beck's crowd are likely full of themselves as well. Both events perhaps nothing more consequential than big transient mobs of crazy crackers in washington.

The fellow at 00:21 holding the sign, "All we are saying is give Smart people a chance." I'd love to know his IQ. If the feller has a degree, I'd risk betting that he has a liberal arts degree. Perhaps this is evidence that the public school decades of self image enhancement have been an unqualified success!

Perhaps the Smugapalooza editors captured the only smug people attending, and the thousands of others were all humble. Of course you can't blame Stewart for whoever decided to show up.

Apologies I feel a meandering incoherent rant coming on.

I have long been of the opinion that sanity or rationality is not practically achievable. For that matter, sanity or rationality cannot even be rigorously defined to the extent that you can unambiguously identify it in the wild.

Such prejudice makes me distrust folks who put faith in a narrow doctrinaire definition of rationality. Especially when they believe themselves unusually rational.

I mean, even if it were possible to unambiguously measure sanity or rationality, how could one ever prove that rationality is better, more correct, or more desirable than the alternative?

Case in point--

RationalWiki

Much of the rationalwiki site is very interesting. It has multiple authors and some are more talented than others.

Perhaps I'm hallucinating, but if you read sufficient rationalwiki content, common memes of the site become clear:

1. Rational is better than irrational. Rational is right and irrational is wrong.

2. The authors of the site know the definition of rationality and can unambiguously identify rationality. They are the true arbiters of rationality.

3. Left-wing folklore is primarily rational but right-wing folklore is primarily irrational.

Therefore, if we are gonna put SMART, SANE, RATIONAL people in charge, then it is pretty obvious that they will also be LIBERAL.

Maybe I'm making too much of it, but I don't want these know-it-alls running my govt any more than I want any other kind of know-it-all running my govt. The rational true-believers seem about as whack as anybody else.

IMO, rationalwiki's portrayal of "sanity" or "rationality" is the same coin in which Stewart and many of his fans deal. If you agree to their definition of sanity, it is a party-line left-wing definition of sanity.

Edited November 1, 2010 by Lester Weevils

[Guest 6.8 AR]

This rally was in the same grain as Colbert's dumb, and waste of time, self indulgent use of a congressional

hearing. I considered both to be in the same level of stupidity. They were using the stage to promote

themselves as if they were some kind of credible source of wisdom. And they did this primarily to mock

Beck's crowd, which dwarfed them, by the way. If you don't like Beck, so what? I don't care. It wasn't

why I posted this, anyway.

I don't get my news from comedians.

And yes, Lester, they do seem to have a different version of rationality and sanity.

[Guest CK1]

The rally was a blast. Far less partisan than almost anyone would've guessed, really the overall message was that our collective national discourse is and has been polluted by an over-active over-sensationalized 24-hour news-cycle that does much to generate buzz and zero to generate progress.

I don't care what side/ideology you're buying, if you think you've got it figured out 100% correctly you should just consider yourself part of the problem.

6.8AR, most of what you post is complete 100% BS and is basically propaganda. More or less this entire section of this forum is poisoned by what falsehoods you and to a lesser extent a few others post here. Forums in-general are usually considered places to discuss and share opinions, not propagate an agenda as you've been treating it. I'd implore you to take a look in the mirror and realize it's obvious to everyone on here that you hardly have anything truly figured out at all and that perhaps discourse may mean that before arguing, it may be worth a little of your time spent making an effort to understand where other points of view may be coming from before making it your mission to drown them out by shouting your opinion and false-facts over them. Many of your postings have made me honestly feel genuine empathy for you and truly hope that you are taking necessary steps to keep your predisposition towards delusion and angst in-check and are not taking your feelings of unrest and intense partisanship to areas of your life where it would have a negative effect on your family, friends, or co-workers.

Before you make your next post or start your next thread consider this fact: you are not righteous, you are not more informed, mostly you are just a liar.

(btw, Glenn Beck's rally's attendance was 85,000+, yesterday's Stewart/Colbert rally's attendance was 215,000+)

Edited November 1, 2010 by CK1

[Guest Lester Weevils]

The rally was a blast. Far less partisan than almost anyone would've guessed, really the overall message was that our collective national discourse is and has been polluted by an over-active over-sensationalized 24-hour news-cycle that does much to generate buzz and zero to generate progress.

I don't care what side/ideology you're buying, if you think you've got it figured out 100% correctly you should just consider yourself part of the problem.

Hi CK1 I agree nobody's got it figgered out.

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