Michael Bloomberg 08?????

[Guest Boomhower]

I don't know if anyone else has posted this or not, but I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this.

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[Smith]

He is a self-indulged, egotistical, politician, who couldn't put on his underwear by himself without assistance from all his analyst. As much as I think Giuliani is a moderate liberal, he is miles away from Bloomberg. As mayor's go, not much of a contest.

Yeah, I don't think I would vote for him.

[Bigiron]

Me neither.

[The Rabbi]

I'm hoping he runs. It'll get his mind off trying to run honest gun dealers out of business in other states. Also probably bleed off liberal support for the Democratic nominee.

[Guest Tombstone]

I read the part that talked about their concern about the illegal guns. I have no problem with that concern and their hopes to take care of that problem.... But my concern is this. What is their definition of illegal. I am afraid that once they open the door on that, the definition would surely change to hurt those of us that are not thieves, robbers murderers,etc. We would be left trying to close that door. And that would be like trying to plug a whole in a dam with your little finger.

I wish that we had people in office that actually had a clue as to what common sense really was.

In the article it mentioned that the number of shootings had increased, more police officers and citizens being shot with illegal firearms.

Oh gosh.... Just how are we going to stop this? Why don't we spend millions of tax payers dollars and take away all of the illegal direarms. Hey while they are at it why not take away all the air. I think that they would be just as succsessful. I know that this has been said time and time again, but the thing that will fix this problem is to make prison so scary that even the baddest mo fo will be scared to death. THen the second part of that is to let everyone that is not a criminal, carry a firearm. The last part would be that if you have to shoot someone and the courts determine that you were not at fault, then there WOULD NOT or COULD NOT be a cival suit.

Okay I feel better now. LOL

[Rightwinger]

:up:Preach Brother, Preach!

[The Rabbi]

The gun on my hip is a legal firearm. If someone steals it, it is an illegal firearm. What transformed it from legal to illegal? A criminal act. Maybe we should focus on people committing criminal acts instead of on whether a particular item is "legal" or "illegal".

[Guest Boomhower]

The gun on my hip is a legal firearm. If someone steals it, it is an illegal firearm. What transformed it from legal to illegal? A criminal act. Maybe we should focus on people committing criminal acts instead of on whether a particular item is "legal" or "illegal".

I lik tha way u tallk.

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

The dude is about as anti-gun/anti 2A as they get....all he's going to do is take votes away from both the D's and the R's and acomplish nothing. Even the reported 500 mil. of his own money he's ready to spend won't get him elected.

What we gotta start organizing for is the Democratic win of the Presidency (and it IS going to happen) and the subsequent gun controls/regulations/confiscations that are guaranteed to follow. Regardless of what anyone thinks, Geo. Bush has destroyerd the Republican party in this country for the forseeable future.

[The Rabbi]

What we gotta start organizing for is the Democratic win of the Presidency (and it IS going to happen) and the subsequent gun controls/regulations/confiscations that are guaranteed to follow. Regardless of what anyone thinks, Geo. Bush has destroyerd the Republican party in this country for the forseeable future.

Ah, wrong.

[Marswolf]

George Bush didn't destroy the Republican Party. All the Republicans who forgot their voting base, spent money like drunken sailors and are letting us pay for all of this as taxpayers have come close to destroying the Party though.

The Republicans became like the Democrats. They did that largely because they think that is what the voters want. And I suspect they are right. People want more government spending in their district and more "entitlements". It will never reverse until the revolution that prevents people on the public dole from voting. And unfortunate a lot of us are on the public dole. Medicare is welfare. Social Security is welfare. The next generation just has to pay for it. Hey, I'm "entitled" to stick it to the next generation.

It wasn't Bush, it was just about all of the Republicans we elected to government in conjunction with the Democrats.

When election time gets here, we have to vote for the best of the choices running. Hold your nose and vote for the better candidate.

[The Rabbi]

Yes, Mars. Exactly. The worst part is that no matter how much money the Republicans spent, no matter how many new or expanded programs they put in, they consistently get nailed for "not doing enough" by the media and the Democrats.

This has been Bush's biggest problem in his tenure. He tries to gain political advantage by sacrificing basic principles and it always backfires. Look at the steel tariffs. Look at the deals for the judges. Look at the prescription benefit for Medicare.

[Marswolf]

While originally penned for Earthday in 1971, this really applies to our current situation in government.

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

Ah, wrong.

I would like nothing more than 2 b wrong....I just don't think I am.

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

George Bush didn't destroy the Republican Party. All the Republicans who forgot their voting base, spent money like drunken sailors and are letting us pay for all of this as taxpayers have come close to destroying the Party though.

The Republicans became like the Democrats. They did that largely because they think that is what the voters want. And I suspect they are right. People want more government spending in their district and more "entitlements". It will never reverse until the revolution that prevents people on the public dole from voting. And unfortunate a lot of us are on the public dole. Medicare is welfare. Social Security is welfare. The next generation just has to pay for it. Hey, I'm "entitled" to stick it to the next generation.

It wasn't Bush, it was just about all of the Republicans we elected to government in conjunction with the Democrats.

When election time gets here, we have to vote for the best of the choices running. Hold your nose and vote for the better candidate.

We agree to disagree.......God bless America!!!!

If, as you say, a bunch of Republicans are guilty it doesn't change the facts.

The destruction/demise of the party is just as certain.

If a ship sinks because the boiler blows up they dont punish the engineer, they court marshal the Captain.

[The Rabbi]

The destruction of the party has been advertised many times before. Some of you are old enough to remember Watergate. I recall a NYTimes article the next year or so predicting the failure of the GOP since so many people were switching registration, etc etc.

It didnt happen. The party came back under Reagan. The time in exile did them well, gave them a chance to get rid of the dead wood, and re-establish their basic philosophy as Goldwater conservatism (small gov't, lower taxes, robust foreign policy). We need the same thing and maybe a good shellacking in this election will get rid of the dead wood and do the same.

[Marswolf]

The party needs to come up with a set of principles that are different than the Democrats and they will actually work to implement. I could suggest a few ideas.

But you can blame Bush for vetoing stem cell research and a few other things. You can't blame him for the Congress ignoring their voting base and voting like Democrats. The problem isn't one bad Republican apple. It's about 250 of them.

[midtennchip]

Unfortunately, it is not a new (uh, remade) Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) Party. What we NEED is a remade electorate. As Alexander Tyler once stated (only he was referencing the fall of Athens), "[a] democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship."

Both parties have fallen into this trap. GWB didn't do it alone (although I have plenty of problems with him, despite voting for him - TWICE!?!?!). The problem is you almost can't get elected in a national race without pork barrel spending and goverment entitlements. We need a better educated electorate. Since that's not going to happen, I'm just waiting for Mr. Tyler's quote to come true. We are giving it away piece by piece.