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So if I'm sitting at home, enjoying a drink, and a chainsaw wielding fool busts in and tries to hack me to pieces... what do I do? Do I let him murder me for fear that my BAC level might reflect poorly on my decision to defend myself? Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Straw man argument.......other than the 12/6 example.

First, if you're in your own home then HCP status (or not) is totally moot.

Secondly, if a chainsaw-equipped assailant is trying to "hack (you) to pieces", then that is clearly a justified self-defense shoot - no matter the time, location, how many drinks you've had, what you're wearing, etc.

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So if I'm sitting at home, enjoying a drink, and a chainsaw wielding fool busts in and tries to hack me to pieces... what do I do? Do I let him murder me for fear that my BAC level might reflect poorly on my decision to defend myself?

Can you believe it?? I was thinking exactly the same thing you were. That’s why I thought I better put in “Pretty clear cut†to cover that.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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You would need a pretty clear cut shooting where being mentally impaired would not be a factor.

That's what I postulated, with "otherwise justified shooting".

If you were justified in shooting, but missed and shot an innocent bystander your BAC level could cost you years in prison and every dime you have.

Surely that is like to happen if you did the same sober?

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Good thing about America is that everyone has their own opinion. I respect yours, mine is that if you drink and shoot someone out in public in a self defense situation then your butt is grass.

Maybe, maybe not.

I'm certainly not arguing that it's a good idea to have a drink or two and carry, only that it's not illegal per se, and the outcome of self-defense use of your gun might or might not be changed by your having alcohol in your system, or even being "legally drunk". It's certainly not a sure deal that "your butt is grass" by any means.

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