First LEO encounter while carrying

[Guest bnoland]

I agree that is how it should be... but refusing to show your permit to an officer would be a violation of 39-17-1351 thru 39-17-1360 (IANAL) and therefore if reported to TDOS your permit would be revoked.

Yes, TN law doesn't completely jive with Terry Stops cases law...

I suspect the argument would be that if they see you with a handgun, and having a handgun on your person is generally a crime they can start a terry stop and then ask for your permit as part of that terry stop....

I *personally* think an argument could be made that it's an unconstitutional stop in most cases, because the officer must have a reasonable suspicion a crime is being committed, and in that officers personal experience and training how often has he stopped a person open carrying in a holster and the person be violating the law? I'm willing to bet very very rarely to almost never.

Yes, that would be the argument because in TN it is illegal to posses a firearm with the intent to go armed. Your HCP off sets that giving your legal permission to carry.

[Guest bnoland]

i carry paper work in my vehicles now to show any officer that the law tells me where i can carry but in tn it does not tell me how i have to carry. that seems to be the problem with most officers because they have rules on how to carry and we as permit holders do not. the officers i have had contact with seem to get bent out of shape over 1911s cocked and locked.

I have officers that work with me who wanted to lock someone up for open carry. I was a rookie (about 6 months on) at the time so they didnt believe me when I told them with a permit the person can carry however they want. They thought because our policy said we have to conseal that eveyone has to. Its all in what officer you deal with. I deal well with HCP holders because I was one before I became a LEO so I know what you are allowed and not allowed to do.