black powder help

[Guest gunnutt]

I have a cva bobcat .50 cal.blackpowder rifel and i cant get the dang breech plug out so i can clean it right so if anyone has any suggestions on how to get it out would be appreciated,thanks,john

[ttocswob]

I found out the hard way, the Bobcat does not have a breech plug! (at least mine didn't)

Just remove the nipple, scrub well, and rinse repeatedly, preferably with boiling water.

CVA Sidelock Manual (.pdf)

Money quote:

WARNING: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD ATTEMPTS BE MADE TO REMOVE THE BOLSTER OR BREECH PLUG.

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Edited August 26, 2010 by ttocswob
added link & quote

[Handsome Rob]

I don't mean to argue, but unless your Bobcat has a stainless barrel (I don't think they do, but I'm not very familiar with the gun) I really wuldn't use boiling water to clean it. Boiling water can cause the barrel to 'flash' rust when it dries.

Your best bet is to remove the barrel from the stock, remove the nipple & submerge the breech end in a bucket of cool/warm water with just a little dish-soap added. Put a cleaning patch on the jag & pump it up & down the barrel for 20 or 30 strokes. The patch will suction the water up the barrel through the flash hole & squirt it out the same way. Once you've done that, change the water for clean, warm tap water, change your patch & re-clean until the water runs out of the barrel clean & clear.

Dry the barrel well, with 6 or 7 dry patches, changing after each run down & up the barrel. Make sure the barrel is completely dry. I hold the breech of all my frontstuffers over a stove until they're too hot to touch to make sure th flash channel & patent breech are dry. Then, liberally oil the barrel. I use a cleaning patch saturated in Rem-oil & then store te rifle muzzle DOWN so the excess oil doesn't run into the flash channel. Next day, run a fresh patch down the bore & check for rust. Make sure you swab the barrel with an alcohol patch before you re-load the gun though!

It sounds like a lot of work, but in reality it takes me less than 10 minutes to fully clean my caplock.

One thing I will say is DON'T USE HOPPES No 9!!! When Hoppes mixes with the residue from Pyrodex/777 the mixture is very, very caustic & can ruin a barrel in minutes!

To be honest, the absolute best thing you can do for the gun is to get hold of some real black powder (Bass Pro carry it, but you have to ask. It's not on the shelves) It's easier to clean, non corrosive, cheaper & ignites much faster than the substitutes.

[leroy]

.....robatatoo quote....One thing I will say is DON'T USE HOPPES No 9!!! When Hoppes mixes with the residue from Pyrodex/777 the mixture is very, very caustic & can ruin a barrel in minutes! ...

Good advice. We always used Balistol (...it must be a water soluble vegetable type oil...). Dont use a petroleum based oil with black powder/pyrodex type powders. They will make a hard fouling that you will have to work hard to get rid of. We always used bore butter soaked patches under the bullet (...or ball..) in our percussion revolvers.

To clean after shooting; we always scrubbed with a mixture of equal parts of water, non ammonia windex, alcohol, and hydrogen peroxide (...got this recipe from the North-South Skirmish website--- dont know what the hydrogen peroxide is for. ....); dried the bore, and wiped it down with balistol. We always swabbed the nipples with the same cleaning mixture and wiped them dry with pipe cleaners.

PS: I think rabatatoo is right about this too. Black powder shoots better and doesnt choke you to death with the nasty fumes from the black powder substitute stuff. Black powder also cleans up better.

...To be honest, the absolute best thing you can do for the gun is to get hold of some real black powder (Bass Pro carry it, but you have to ask. It's not on the shelves) It's easier to clean, non corrosive, cheaper & ignites much faster than the substitutes. ...

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

Leroy

Edited August 26, 2010 by leroy

[Guest TnRebel]

I have a CVA Blazer and its an in-line and it doesn't have a breech plug , the cleaning steps that robtattoo gave is the best and the way I do mine. And remember as black powder season approaches , to be sure to follow all safety rules . And good hunting !

[Guest gunnutt]

thank yall very much!!! I thought i was doing something wrong,I will make a note and clean it the way robtatto says to,and once again thank so much,john