Total Destruction of Western World

[Guest Abominable_Hillbilly]

Do you really think the Tea Party crowd will

give up?

Yes.

They'll be absorbed by non-conservative republicans who'll spew the right rhetoric, and then betray us all. The Tea Partiers talk tough now, but they'll dutifully run off the republican cliff like spooked lambs. They won't vote third party.

First and foremost we must restore our economy. If that does not happen; nothing else matters. What are your ideas on doing that and who do you want us to vote for that will do that?

Get the government's nose out of our backsides. Leave us to our own devices. Free markets make for a free populace. People who are constantly nannied, harangued, harassed, inspected, and generally annoyed by their government tend to become cynical and irresponsible. They are treated like children, so they behave as children. They don't have an adult sense of themselves. They are demoralized. They are fundamentally defeated.

[Guest strelcevina]

You type like you probably talk. Eastern European maybe? You like the system you left? If your not from there...my apologies. I'm just picturing Dolph Lundgren from Rocky talking/typing.

i will respond to you

your statements are Everybody hate us, you said "So" only your kind are smart, positive image is bad, and so on.

that is typical Farmer mentality and i don't wont to even try to change it .

So Mister GunTroll in the words of Ivan Drago "I must Brake You ":)

[Guest Abominable_Hillbilly]

Old system i meant 8 years under George Bush -- pound by pound the worst President in History.

everybody started to hate USA , even Europeans

After Bush any direction is better direction

and best example is ,that Americans elected Obama a Black Guy just to get rid of Monopolized Capitalism that Bush allowed , where only Super rich made a profit.

let me put it this way,

if you married and your wife is so bad that you rather turn gay than go for another woman, than your wife must be worst woman in history

Obama is bringing something that any Republicans Cant do and that is , Bringing a Positive Image to this country.

you love or hate him , doesn't change a fact that all over world people Love USA Again, just because Obama is President.

and that is a big deal

This is all sarcasm, right?

[DaveTN]

Get the government's nose out of our backsides. Leave us to our own devices. Free markets make for a free populace. People who are constantly nannied, harangued, harassed, inspected, and generally annoyed by their government tend to become cynical and irresponsible. They are treated like children, so they behave as children. They don't have an adult sense of themselves. They are demoralized. They are fundamentally defeated.

Granted, but the “free populace†needs to understand that nothing is free. We need to protect our economy. I do not support the government trying to fix our economy. It is the American people that caused it and it needs to be the American people that fix it.

[Guest GunTroll]

Thanks for responding. I'm no farmer. But am I right? I have friends from Romania I served with in the Army who talk like you type. Nice last line by the way ! Good one. But I care less what the rest of the world views us as (unless its weakness). I don't live there. I live here. If that makes me a simpleton then so be it. From what I saw of the rest of the world....you can have it.

Now back to the discussion at hand.......

[Guest Jamie]

So Mister GunTroll in the words of Ivan Drago "I must Brake You ":)

So, you're going to slow him down, possibly bringing him to a stop?

Or are you simply going to damage him, or otherwise cause him to stop functioning properly?

J.

[Guest Abominable_Hillbilly]

It is the American people that caused it and it needs to be the American people that fix it.

You really don't see the government's role in all of this?

[Guest strelcevina]

This is all sarcasm, right?

just a middle part.

but my opinion is still

Bush was a worst president, and Obama was elected to restore Positive Image.

[Guest GunTroll]

He's perhaps making the world "happy", but an epic failure here at home. Nuff said.

[Guest Abominable_Hillbilly]

just a middle part.

but my opinion is still

Bush was a worst president, and Obama was elected to restore Positive Image.

Obama may have been elected by droolers with stars in their eyes, ostensibly with the hope of restoring some meaningless world opinion of us, but it hasn't happened. Have you not been paying attention? The "world" is quite put out with the man. Same as the ACLU and many other groups who supported his election. He's been a total wash and more-of-the-same.

As to Bush being the worst president ever, well, I think he's behind the likes of Carter, Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR.

[Guest mosinon]

MAn, this end of the world stuff, I just don't know. It seems to me that you can pick any arbitrary time in American history and find plenty end-o-America stuff. You can go farther back and find more.

When Reagan was elected I was promised that we'd be in a nuclear war in no time.

That turned out not to be the case but I remember reading some book called "The Day After" or something about survivors from the war. And we all remember Red Dawn, amirite?

So George Bush got elected. I was promised that the new world order was imminent. Crap, he even said "New world order". I was promised that it was going to be a one world thing, various blue helmeted UN folks would be patrolling the streets and so forth.

Then, holy crap, Bill Clinton got elected. I was promised that socialism would be the next stop and that America was doomed. I also recall the republicans floating a very Obama like option to the universal health care plan promoted by the administration.

Then, double holy crap, George W Bush got elected. I was promised that this country would turn into a theocracy, that Americans would be rounded up in some fema camps and so forth. I was also promised that HWB would declare martial law and stay in power rather than step down when his term was done. Oh, he's also Hitler

Then Obama got elected. This is like holy crap to the eight power or something. I was promised he would take everyone's guns. MAke the country completely and utterly both communist and fascist (which I'm not exactly sure is actually possible, the options might be mutually exclusive). I'm also promised he is either the most cunning politician in history or a complete and utter moron. Not that really matters.

The point is that the end of the western world is a lot like adoption of the metric system. It is always around the corner but, so far, it hasn't arrived.

The US won't always be the dominant country in the world. I think we are probably looking at the moment in time when we aren't the world's biggest economy, but that doesn't mean western civilization is immediately doomed. Someday the US will fall and while the last President and the current President seem to be hurrying that day along it is going to take more than two inept prezzies to make it happen.

Though, if you are interested, you can pick just about any president you want and come up with a reason why he doomed the country during his term.

[Guest strelcevina]

Thanks for responding. I'm no farmer. But am I right? I have friends from Romania I served with in the Army who talk like you type. Nice last line by the way ! Good one. But I care less what the rest of the world views us as (unless its weakness). I don't live there. I live here. If that makes me a simpleton then so be it. From what I saw of the rest of the world....you can have it.

Now back to the discussion at hand.......

Farmer is somebody who is self sufficient.. doesn't need nobody for nothing. hence doesn't give much for somebody's else opinion.

we do live here, but everything what we have and use comes form somewhere else.

and a War we fight together with Other countries

so Other countries not liking us, is a big deal

Let me tell you something that your kids and grand kids wont ever see , label saying "Made in USA"

[Guest GunTroll]

They can look no further than in my shop. Thats right. American made by an American. To me a Farmer is someone who grows stuff usually to be eaten. I sort of took it as an insult but to your definition.....thank you. You know the thing about opinions right? Of course other countries don't like us. We mettle. That needs to stop. Both parties are guilty.

[Oh Shoot]

MAn, this end of the world stuff...

Naw, just massive reduction in human population. Think of it as a market correction.

- OS

[Guest Letereat!]

that is typical Farmer mentality..... from the great and wiseStrel

That explains it all I can see clearly now. You are a city dwellin mamsy pants government dependant.

No offense to anyone who lives in the city.

I am guessing you are from slovokie, transelnanieee,uzbeckeestan.. mabey even the middle east. It must have been pretty ****y thats for sure.

Your insight is terribly shallow and superficial, one must look far beyond the vale of mere image to see the truth Mr. Strelcevina.

You aint got a clue pal.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Letereat!

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I never thought it, at the time, but "The Day After" was built up like it would happen.

I remember watching it and it was depressing. Reagan's first term. Turned out for the

end of the world. "Red Dawn" was the better of the two. I never thought of the timing

of those two movies. I liked both of them, too.

There is always a possibility stuff like this could happen, but to the scale of the nuclear

war, even the Russians and Chinese know it would be impractical to be in one since it

would make the northern hemisphere dead for a long time. They and Europe know if

our economy collapses, theirs would be very close behind. Iran won't have the capability

for a long time, except to trigger an event, that would probably cause their destruction.

I think our problems will be internal, fighting our own people and government, if we don't

get something right soon. Our chance for a civil war is more likely to happen due to the

current administration spending us toward oblivion. The hole is real deep and it may

cause gas and food shortages to happen. We've been there, just not in a big scale. I

don't want to see what a large scale shortage of anything basic will cause.

This country is still rich in all the resources it needs and when it comes to these kinds of

scenarios we can survive. Life will go on.

I would rather work on fixing our political system first, before worrying to much about

the end, just yet. If it happens because of a natural disaster, then it won't really matter,

either.

The glass is still half full.

strel, those countries that you say hate the US more than likely are jealous since they

don't really know anything other than socialism or a dictatorship. Anyway, why would it

bother you how they feel about the US? We didn't care about that during the American

Revolution. why should it worry us, now?