Total Destruction of Western World

[Oh Shoot]

And if they believe they will take a bath in it, so will everyone else. Not that's good at all,

but if everyone is in the same shape, things are still workable, I hope.

It's not "workable" for most Americans or Europeans to live like most Chinese, if that's what you mean.

First world societies are not wired to become part of a significantly lower lifestyle common denominator.

Truly Bad Things would happen.

- OS

[Mike.357]

Mike, this has been going on for years, but it is getting bad. That's why November is still

important.

right been going on for years but has gotten way out of control since the annointed one took over.

And I am not so sure November really matters. One side is about as bad as the other.

[Guest trigem]

When Clinton was re-elected, he made a statement( We will raise up the third world countries to our level) but he was a back speaker, turn around what he said and you can now see what he really meant, America lowered to a third world country

[Guest Letereat!]

Im with Mike.357, I think the thought of it is kinda exciting, invigorating even. Bring it I say, well give me about 1- 2 more years and Ill be ready set to go.

The Georgia guide stone does indeed exist. Then you take the into account The Bohemian Grove, Skull and bones, The Bilderbergers, The Fed that is not Federal, The world Bank, Pervasive and Rampent Government corruption the world over, George Nory And Alex Jones and his massive documentation and Documentary movies, 911 truthers, Iran and Isreal, ,

The Fact that I am Big Brother Incarnate and have been logging every keystroke of every member of TGO from the inception Etc Etc, Etc on and on and forever.

Lets just get the fight on I say.......Oh yea it is on!!!!

[leroy]

...When Clinton was re-elected, he made a statement( We will raise up the third world countries to our level ) but he was a back speaker, turn around what he said and you can now see what he really meant, America lowered to a third world country. ....

I fully agree. This has been going on for a pretty good while. There is a very powerful faction in the Demorat party (...and a few in the Republican party; sadly...) that has been working mightily to make everyone ignorant and poor (...just like serfs...) in this country; and to create a "privledged class" of insiders who run the "Socialist Workers Utopian Dream" state. Nobama is just the latest incarnation of them. I doubt they will succeed. We are still armed and have the vote.

Keep up the good work.

Leroy

[DaveTN]

Using a bomb on Israel

The Georgia guide stones. How cute… another 10 commandments.

Prisoner of war camp in downtown Las Vegas. And they are building them all across the united states right now.

My son happens to be a nuclear physicist; spent the last three years in a secret city in Russia.

China will take the U.S. for a food growing resource.

He destroyed companies because “It was a Game; I didn’t charge them anything.â€

Paul Volcker, Ted Kennedy, Pierre Trudeau and a half cigar box full of cocaine.

Being stupid should hurt.

[Will Carry]

It's the end of the world as we know it................and I feel fine.

[Guest strelcevina]

I love those dooms day scenarios.

and Russia will attack us with million A-bombs , still works

So far that guy is Well spoken people will believe anything he says

[Guest 6.8 AR]

right been going on for years but has gotten way out of control since the annointed one took over.

And I am not so sure November really matters. One side is about as bad as the other.

If you really think that, I don't think you do.

And OS, I don't mean like the chinese, either. I think, like you, too much economic

destruction has been done to relive our childhoods, but we have been in bad times

before and managed to get our way out. It usually took a while. Ready to play war

games? I have been trying to pick that stuff apart and figure out who will do what.

But, what makes you think everyone thinks like you? I'm sickened by the events,

and this is all bad, right now, but even in the face of adversity this country has done

great things, and it will again. There are radical things that will have to be done

just to undo what that impostor in the White House and congress has done, but it

will be worth it.

Instead of concentrating on gloom and doom, you might at least work on the lesser

of two evils and keep fighting to keep this country alive, keeping a poker face on

for those who still believe in doing something. I have two kids that believe in this

country and I'm not about to roll over and die because you might say so. I will

fight to my last breath.

Regarding your derision of someone's religious belief I saw the other day, you might

considerthat they, who believe in something, and aren't pushing it on you, but do

believe the same thing might happen, because it says so in the Bible. Why, I

wonder would anyone deride another's faith, especially when it confirms some

or all of what you believe? Some pathways converge in unique and strange ways

and it would be wise to just believe in bigger pictures. I wish you would focus your

energy in a more positive light.

I'm just five years younger than you and I believe we will see better times, after

these rough times.

November is very important. You people might join the ones trying to change our

system back into what it once was. Do you really think the Tea Party crowd will

give up? You're mistaken. They are doing the logical steps first, but they are angry.

Polls show it and the media is scared to hell about it, along with the democrats.

We don't seem to have any Ronald Wilson Reagans around, but there are quite

a large number of folks who remember what he did. Restore confidence and

patriotism instead of conceding defeat. You would be wise to try to give something

better to the next generation, instead of a bad attitude mixed with gloom and

doom.

[Guest strelcevina]

November is very important. You people might join the ones trying to change our

system back into what it once was.

Nobody wont's a old system back.

Old system is what ruined a country. gave us a long war .ruined a positive image

only people who loved old system are the one who lived from Credit cards.

it was soooooo easy to get one, and you could live for years with out paying nothing.

Old system is no More.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

strel, that's not what I was saying, and I agree with you about that particular. It is what

caused some of our problems. I was talking about other bigger things. Please take some

more time to re-read. Not a system, a belief in one's self and one's country of what it used

to be before the credit card mentality.

[DaveTN]

Instead of concentrating on gloom and doom, you might at least work on the lesser of two evils and keep fighting to keep this country alive, keeping a poker face on for those who still believe in doing something. I have two kids that believe in this country and I'm not about to roll over and die because you might say so. I will fight to my last breath.

Bravo….Bravo.

How are you “Fighting to your last breath�

So you think this is all about who we elect and not about Americans being responsible citizens?

First and foremost we must restore our economy. If that does not happen; nothing else matters. What are your ideas on doing that and who do you want us to vote for that will do that?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

You have to find leaders, DaveTN. Unless you haven't

been paying attention, there are several starting to bubble up to the surface. The economy can and will

get repaired if we all get involved and do the right stuff,

or do you just want to fight about how dumb we all are?

I'm going to a gun show but will be glad to engage in

further discussion after that, if you wish

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[DaveTN]

You have to find leaders, DaveTN. Unless you haven't

been paying attention, there are several starting to bubble up to the surface. The economy can and will

get repaired if we all get involved and do the right stuff,

or do you just want to fight about how dumb we all are?

I'm going to a gun show but will be glad to engage in

further discussion after that, if you wish

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I have not implied that we are all dumb. I have stated outright that most are not the Patriots they profess to be. Until that changes; things will stay the same.

Think about that as you decide on your purchases at the gun show.

Sent from my DELL using a Keyboard.

[Guest GunTroll]

Where the hell did I put my beans and bullets...........

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Give people a chance and you will find out there are

more patriots out there. They might just be

looking for the leader to emerge.

Waiting on Mike at Jacks BBQ smelling some great

food.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, and, yes, I can

be a smartass, too.

[DaveTN]

Give people a chance and you will find out there are more patriots out there. They might just be looking for the leader to emerge.

I support protectionism and I don’t even try to sugar coat it or lie about it. I am an American patriot.

Finding a Patriot that speaks open and honestly about the issues and can get elected seems impossible anymore.

After the last election I question that we can even have an election on the issues anymore. The last elections was to see if we could elect a minority and I fear the next one will be to see if we can elect a woman. The middle class is split all over the place on the issues and along party lines. The low income voters are focused on a single candidate. Their group is getting much larger while the middle class is getting smaller.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

There may be two women facing each other in the next presidential election.

That would be interesting. The last election was between a moron impostor

(winner) and a moron moderate progressive "reach across the aisle" kind

of pseudo Republican(loser). I voted for the lesser of two morons because I

liked his VP choice better than him. Too many people didn't bother to think

before they voted, or they didn't bother to vote.

You don't have to tell everyone you're a patriot, Dave. That's something that

will shine when necessary, but I'm glad you consider yourself one. It's not my

place to judge one's patriotism, anyway.

There's one thing you have forgotten about the last election, though. People

are sick and tired of the misery Obama, Reid and Pelosi has strong armed us

into, and I think think a few bums are about to be thrown out because of it.

Sometimes "We, the people" have to endure a little pain to remind us which

end is up. There is a lot of anger swelling when you see a republican take

Teddy Kennedy's seat. Polls are looking good all over the country to dethrone

a lot of progressives. They are losing their argument for centralized government.

We need to put the heat on every representative to serve by the Constitution,

not by the lobbyist, and we need to be infusing more new blood into the political

process, not just bitch about it.

I like the idea of protectionism, also.

[Guest Letereat!]

Nobody wont's a old system back.

Old system is what ruined a country. gave us a long war .ruined a positive image

only people who loved old system are the one who lived from Credit cards.

it was soooooo easy to get one, and you could live for years with out paying nothing.

Old system is no More.

What "old system" are you talkin about Strel. Are you tryin to say our gevernment is takin our country in a positive direction??? I am perplexed, please elaborate.

[Oh Shoot]

...

And OS,....but we have been in bad times

before and managed to get our way out...

Never been where we are now.

Population levels and densities, both US and worldwide, change the game -- there's no actual valid precedent.

I have two kids that believe in this country and I'm not about to roll over and die because you might say so. I will fight to my last breath.

I'll fight, too, if you mean using actual physical force. Wouldn't miss it, given a realistic opportunity. It's well past the time that Jefferson and the Boys would have called for it.

Short of that, I'm too old to possibly see any benefits from working within the system, even if I believed there are any. The tyranny is too entrenched as "law" now, for anything short of massive civil disobedience if not outright armed rebellion to really change it significantly. Although I don't believe either of those will happen before a economic/social disintegration does.

Regarding your derision of someone's religious belief I saw the other day, you might

considerthat they, who believe in something, and aren't pushing it on you, but do

believe the same thing might happen, because it says so in the Bible.

If you mean my saying "One man's scripture is another man's tinfoil hat", where's the specific derision? I certainly apply that statement to every religion on the planet, not just Christianity. I am an equal opportunity debunker. I saw your comment: "And another man's absurdity is another man's laugh,", which made no sense, so I didn't follow.

Every religion formalized enough to have its own writings, has its end of the world scenario. Just because some part of one or more of them eventually happens doesn't prove any prophetic vision.

Of course, losing about half the world's population is not an "End Times" scenario in the first place. Assuming we are spared annihilation from space, plenty of time for that sort of thing to happen many thousands of times before Sol burns out. Only true "End Times" for homo sapiens is if we don't get our seed dispersed beyond this small solar system before any of that happens.

I'm just five years younger than you and I believe we will see better times, after these rough times.

Well, that makes one of us.

Do you really think the Tea Party crowd will give up? You're mistaken. They are doing the logical steps first, but they are angry.

They, and even their winning supported candidates, will be absorbed by the GOP machine, which won't be modified enough to matter. At some point, economic survival, if not physical survival, will become Issue Numero Uno, and under that guise, the theft of our remaining freedoms will be attempted.

You would be wise to try to give something better to the next generation, instead of a bad attitude mixed with gloom and doom.

Well, if you want to play Little Miss Sunshine, have at at. I think it's more responsible to be realistic in what we face than to be a Pollyanna.

I'll offer everything I have to you younger next generation patriots out there, but not until there's an alternate game without the fixed deck. And you're not gonna start that game by working within the tyranny that the system has become.

So hurry up, y'all .. I've only got a relatively few years to jump in there.

- OS

[Guest strelcevina]

What "old system" are you talkin about Strel. Are you tryin to say our gevernment is takin our country in a positive direction??? I am perplexed, please elaborate.

Old system i meant 8 years under George Bush -- pound by pound the worst President in History.

everybody started to hate USA , even Europeans

After Bush any direction is better direction

and best example is ,that Americans elected Obama a Black Guy just to get rid of Monopolized Capitalism that Bush allowed , where only Super rich made a profit.

let me put it this way,

if you married and your wife is so bad that you rather turn gay than go for another woman, than your wife must be worst woman in history

Obama is bringing something that any Republicans Cant do and that is , Bringing a Positive Image to this country.

you love or hate him , doesn't change a fact that all over world people Love USA Again, just because Obama is President.

and that is a big deal

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Pollyanna? Little Miss Sunshine? My, we're bold, aren't we?

Tell me what is being responsible about accepting doom and gloom.

There are people that are realistic enough to realize that giving up only lets

the other side win, when one might have to choose sides.

If we are well past the Jeffersonian attitude, we are all too mellowed to submission

to make a stand.

I won't take your word on the newer republican and/or Tea Party candidates, either.

I hope you don't mind. Maybe they will, maybe not. The GOP machine you referred

to is losing funds and political power every day, to other conservative organizations.

I will agree with one thing you said. Economically we're in trouble. It can and will be

fixed. Most other countries are in the same sinking boat.

I'll fight within the system, before I give up. After that is decided, other decisions will

have to be made, won't they?

[Guest Letereat!]

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Edited August 23, 2010 by Letereat!
er uh

[Guest Letereat!]

I didn’t think that this hack would start such a serious discussion. In my humble and honest opinion that guy is a lying sack of:poop: . There is simply no way to validate who he says he is or any of his fantastical stories of service to the Evil Oligarchic World bank, Business and Political leaders of the world that want to have the whole planet to themselves with 500 million minions to serve their will.

This theme is right up there with “The Lord cumin to take us to Glory†and putting an end to it all. And please do not take offense 6.8 AR; I was a bit surprised how hard you came down on Oh shoot for his “derisive commentâ€. I have had 2 years of formal theological education and 20 years of inquisition and was at one point in life heading to the jungle to be a missionary pilot. I been “soul savingâ€, track passing and witnessing from the streets of Chicago to the shores of Naples Italy. So I have earned the right to be an equal opportunity offender as oh shoot put it. Some of us just don’t buy it and cannot abide with organized religion. I will stop at that, as it is probably TMI anyway.

A wise man once said “If your gonna have any real friends in this world you gotta let them have at least one major flaw.†And if you sit around waiting for some great leader to lead the charge so to speak Waiting for lightening in other words. You may wait forever. We all have a responsibility to take the lead in our sphere of influence as best as we can. You are your own best, Great leader!

My answer is to go backwards, continue to shrink my expenditures and become more independent. Do as much for yourself as you possibly can. That’s why the south and rural country livin kicks the urban livins dick in the dirt. Country people can do for themselves. 50-60 years ago people still hunted for subsistence, lived of the land and survived quite well; without most of the technological advantages that have made us the fat, lazy, whiney, more dependant than ever and largely incapable of self-support nation that we are today. Fight the good fight as best you can, live by the Golden Rule and be ready to throw down and get it on if it ever comes to that. I personally hope it stays isolated in the Middle East and never comes to our Great country.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Letereat!

[Guest GunTroll]

Old system i meant 8 years under George Bush -- pound by pound the worst President in History.

Not even close.....

everybody started to hate USA , even Europeans

so?

After Bush any direction is better direction

You prefer the downward direction I see?

and best example is ,that Americans elected Obama a Black Guy just to get rid of Monopolized Capitalism that Bush allowed , where only Super rich made a profit.

Not all of us Americans are smart.

let me put it this way,

if you married and your wife is so bad that you rather turn gay than go for another woman, than your wife must be worst woman in history

I got nothing for this one....

Obama is bringing something that any Republicans Cant do and that is , Bringing a Positive Image to this country.

A positive image of weakness

you love or hate him , doesn't change a fact that all over world people Love USA Again, just because Obama is President.

and that is a big deal

Are you implying the whole world is dumb and there for watches MSNBC too?

You type like you probably talk. Eastern European maybe? You like the system you left? If your not from there...my apologies. I'm just picturing Dolph Lundgren from Rocky talking/typing.