Is 9mm just to small?

[JAB]

Okay, let me start by saying that thankfully I have never had to shoot a human being. I still wonder what kind of assailants some folks expect to face who will absorb even one - much less multiple - rounds from a 9mm and just get ticked off. Hell, for that matter, I wonder about what kind of assailants folks expect to face that will take two or three rounds from a .380 using modern SD ammo without a sudden change in attitude. I mean, sure there probably are roving, male silverback gorillas high on a cocktail of crack, pcp and paint fumes here and there but geez - it's like some folks really expect it to be a common occurence that an assailant would take two or three premium 9mm defensive rounds COM then just look at them and say, "You shouldn't oughta have done that 'cause now you've really pissed me off!"

Heck, in the limited experience I do have (a couple of low-lifes trying to break in where I used to live) staring down the barrel of a 'lowly' .38 Special through the window in the front door was enough to bring about a sudden change of attitude and cause them to vacate the premises.

Edited August 19, 2010 by JAB

[mikegideon]

Okay, let me start by saying that thankfully I have never had to shoot a human being. I still wonder what kind of assailants some folks expect to face who will absorb even one - much less multiple - rounds from a 9mm and just get ticked off. Hell, for that matter, I wonder about what kind of assailants folks expect to face that will take two or three rounds from a .380 using modern SD ammo without a sudden change in attitude. I mean, sure there probably are roving, male silverback gorillas high on a cocktail of crack, pcp and paint fumes here and there but geez - it's like some folks really expect it to be a common occurence that an assailant would take two or three premium 9mm defensive rounds COM then just look at them and say, "You shouldn't oughta have done that 'cause now you've really pissed me off!"

Heck, in the limited experience I do have (a couple of low-lifes trying to break in where I used to live) staring down the barrel of a 'lowly' .38 Special through the window in the front door was enough to bring about a sudden change of attitude and cause them to vacate the premises.

90 pound crackhead > 9mm

Guy nicknamed Moose or Tiny > .45 ACP

[JAB]

90 pound crackhead > 9mm

Guy nicknamed Moose or Tiny > Forget the handgun and reach for a 12 gauge

Fixed it.

[mikegideon]

Fixed it.

Oh, you mean this little thing?

[Desert Rat]

Mikegideon:

This is a handgun thread. So

[mikegideon]

Mikegideon:

This is a handgun thread. So

I'm too cheap to buy the stamp. I do have a bunch of those green things

[Desert Rat]

For an AOW the stamp is 5.00 + paperwork.

But to remain legal without a tax stamp and still be considered a handgun we can go with this

[mikegideon]

For an AOW the stamp is 5.00 + paperwork.

But to remain legal without a tax stamp and still be considered a handgun we can go with this

If I'm gonna beat the crap outa myself anyway, might as well pony up the 5 bucks.

[Desert Rat]

I picked up the Knoxx pistol grip stock that they claim reduces felt recoil 40% for my 590 Mariner. I have not put it on and tested it yet.

That appears to be an 870 and Knox makes a tactical pistol grip with over folder stock for that also.

Edited August 19, 2010 by Desert Rat

[mikegideon]

Plain ole 870. i put hogue furniture on it just to get rid of the crappy stock recoil pad. I've almost ordered the Knoxx stock more than once. It's strictly a castle gun. Not something I'll be doing much real shotgunning with.

[Guest m&pc9]

Yes, and when speaking of melons it should always be "two"

Thank you for correcting me.

[Guest bkelm18]

Thank you for correcting me.

They probably carry 9mm too.

[Guest m&pc9]

Okay, let me start by saying that thankfully I have never had to shoot a human being. I still wonder what kind of assailants some folks expect to face who will absorb even one - much less multiple - rounds from a 9mm and just get ticked off. Hell, for that matter, I wonder about what kind of assailants folks expect to face that will take two or three rounds from a .380 using modern SD ammo without a sudden change in attitude. I mean, sure there probably are roving, male silverback gorillas high on a cocktail of crack, pcp and paint fumes here and there but geez - it's like some folks really expect it to be a common occurence that an assailant would take two or three premium 9mm defensive rounds COM then just look at them and say, "You shouldn't oughta have done that 'cause now you've really pissed me off!"

Heck, in the limited experience I do have (a couple of low-lifes trying to break in where I used to live) staring down the barrel of a 'lowly' .38 Special through the window in the front door was enough to bring about a sudden change of attitude and cause them to vacate the premises.

This guy survived 21 shots!

Harlem man survives being shot 21 times by NYPD - Yahoo! News

[mikegideon]

"Of course, the real issue is where you get shot. One bullet can kill you, but believe it or not, a body can survive a lot of bullet wounds."

How come I'm not compelled to blame the caliber?

[sigrug17]

I think in reality, your pretty much correct...but if I was a 'Terminator' ?!?!?!

Okay, let me start by saying that thankfully I have never had to shoot a human being. I still wonder what kind of assailants some folks expect to face who will absorb even one - much less multiple - rounds from a 9mm and just get ticked off. Hell, for that matter, I wonder about what kind of assailants folks expect to face that will take two or three rounds from a .380 using modern SD ammo without a sudden change in attitude. I mean, sure there probably are roving, male silverback gorillas high on a cocktail of crack, pcp and paint fumes here and there but geez - it's like some folks really expect it to be a common occurence that an assailant would take two or three premium 9mm defensive rounds COM then just look at them and say, "You shouldn't oughta have done that 'cause now you've really pissed me off!"

Heck, in the limited experience I do have (a couple of low-lifes trying to break in where I used to live) staring down the barrel of a 'lowly' .38 Special through the window in the front door was enough to bring about a sudden change of attitude and cause them to vacate the premises.

[Guest m&pc9]

"Of course, the real issue is where you get shot. One bullet can kill you, but believe it or not, a body can survive a lot of bullet wounds."

How come I'm not compelled to blame the caliber?

You can also stump your toe and die.

[mikegideon]

You can also stump your toe and die.

And... get it shot off and live.

[Guest RedFive]

This guy survived 21 shots!

Harlem man survives being shot 21 times by NYPD - Yahoo! News

The "victim" turned a gun on the cops. Bad idea. Here's the funniest comment on that article:

"This could not have happened, because guns are illegal in NYC"

<<Jeff Wed Aug 11, 2010 05:59 am>>

This guy was being sarcastic, but sadly there are people who really think that way!

[JAB]

This guy survived 21 shots!

Harlem man survives being shot 21 times by NYPD - Yahoo! News

Wow! Of course, I have to say he survived but stopped what he was doing. That's the point, really. If I am forced to fire my handgun in self defense, I don't care if the assailant is DRT or not as long as he is no longer posing a threat to me and mine. On another note, I wonder what NYPD carries. I'm guessing .40 S&W, not 9mm.

[Guest Eagle One]

I only carry my M&P9C with a bunch of ammo so that I can let the guy get close so the extra weight will do more damage when I hit him in the face with it. I wonder if it would be easier for Mas to defend me if I had less ammo. I don't know now I may have to take some of the bullets out of the magazine, but I don't know how many to remove, I wonder if there are any trials of someone being hit with a small caliber gun and how many bullets are too many?????????????????????

[Guest 44M]

if the shooter is useless than 9mm handgun in his hand is useless..but so is .45 or 44mag or 50mm Barrett

Db

[blahX3]

too small for what?

[hipower]

My wife says that it is not the size of the bullet that counts............................she may be lying.

Ya' think?

[Tncobra]

Shoot the largest caliber you are able to accurately handle.

So yes, a 9mm will do fine if that's your limit.

[Kegger]

"Hey Farva, what's that restaraunt you like with all the goofy **** on the walls?"

Shenanigans, this thread has it. lol

Edited January 4, 2011 by Kegger