Remington 770 or Mossberg 100 ATR

[kb4ns]

I'm looking for a decent entry-level deer rifle (under $400 out the door). Been looking at the Remington 770 and the Mossberg 100 ATR. Anyone have a recommendation of one of them over the other? Or care to recommend another rifle in the same price range?

[Kenstaroni]

Heard some negative things about the ATR. Remington 700 rifles are good solid performers. I'd look at Savage and see what they have. Every one I've owned has been great and they are high value guns. The accutrigger is the best stock trigger I've felt on an entry level rifle.

[mikegideon]

I bought a used Rem 700 CDL in .270 for under 400 bucks. It was in great shape. You may wanna consider something like that. Can't beat a 700.

[Guest Conrad]

Marlin XL7 or Savage Edge would be my recommendation over the 770 or Mossberg. I have an Marlin XL7 in 270 and is a solid rifle that shoots sub moa with hand loads. The Remington 770 barrel is pressed in the receiver not threaded.

Here is a group i fired with My XL7 at 100 yards. This was not a fluke or luck this rifle will shoot like this all day long.

Edited August 12, 2010 by Conrad

[mikegideon]

Marlin XL7 or Savage Edge would be my recommendation over the 770 or Mossberg. I have an Marlin XL7 in 270 and is a solid rifle that shoots sub moa with hand loads. The Remington 770 barrel is pressed in the receiver not threaded.

That's probably a real good call. Looks like my 700 too

[Guest Keinengel]

the Thompson Centre Venture is also a good rifle in that price range

[Guest Conrad]

Oh yeah forgot about the venture. +1 for the venture

[fastbs]

pretty sure a stevens (savage) would be my route for a budget deer gun. I had a remington 770 and it worked great but build wise it wasn't much the cheapest new gun i can recomend from hands on play is stevens.

did i mention STEVENS

Edited August 12, 2010 by fastbs

[roverboy]

STEVENS!!!!!!!!!!!! And I've got a ATR 100.

[mikegideon]

Marlin XL7 or Savage Edge would be my recommendation over the 770 or Mossberg. I have an Marlin XL7 in 270 and is a solid rifle that shoots sub moa with hand loads. The Remington 770 barrel is pressed in the receiver not threaded.

Here is a group i fired with My XL7 at 100 yards. This was not a fluke or luck this rifle will shoot like this all day long.

Can't do better than that. I'm a Marlin fan anyway.

[Guest billwilly73]

Another vote for the Stevens

[kb4ns]

Thanks for the input guys. I stopped by Bass Pro tonight and looked a bit. Think I might have to go for the Savage. Didn't see any Marlin bolt guns.

[roverboy]

I think Savage or Stevens is your best bet. The 770 and ATR 100 are a little cheap made . I've got a ATR and its a good shooter and handles good. But its a little cheap in some areas. I don't like the follower and follower spring and the extractor is a little fragile too.

[Kenstaroni]

Savage makes a model called the "Edge", kind of their entry level line but with good features. I read an article about them in a recent Gun's and Ammo magazine. Looked like it preformed great for the low price.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

Edited August 13, 2010 by Kenstaroni

[Guest CharlieMemphis]

MODEL 700 all the way

[kb4ns]

Great help in this thread. I ended up trading a Glock for a Savage 111 in 300 Win Mag. Heck of a stout round. The gun seems quite smooth and I think that with the right (heavy) ammo, it'll make a good deer gun. Thanks again for all the input.

[Guest Conrad]

excellent choice you can anything you need to do with a 300 mag. but i would not use to heavy of a bullet if your gun is synthetic i promise it will kick the crap out of you. a wood one will not be as bad but the recoil is still quite stiff.

[mikegideon]

excellent choice you can anything you need to do with a 300 mag. but i would not use to heavy of a bullet if your gun is synthetic i promise it will kick the crap out of you. a wood one will not be as bad but the recoil is still quite stiff.

Yep, that's gonna leave a mark

[Guest Conrad]

Yep, that's gonna leave a mark

Yep I had some Berger 210grain Vlds loaded for mine for shooting long range and believe me even in a 12 pound rifle they would get your attention

I guess I better quit scaring kb4ns or he will trade it before he even shoots his new gun...lol

But for real You should be just fine with the 300 win mag. I would suggest shooting it off hand a few times just to get used to the recoil and trigger.

Edited August 15, 2010 by Conrad

[kb4ns]

I used to have a synthetic 111 in .30-06 many years ago. As long as the 300 isn't too much worse, I'll get over it.

[mikegideon]

I used to have a synthetic 111 in .30-06 many years ago. As long as the 300 isn't too much worse, I'll get over it.

Edited August 15, 2010 by mikegideon

[buck1032]

My 2nd cousing brought his 8 month old 770 in 308 over here last week to change the stock out. The sling mounts are formed into the stock and feel and look cheap and easily broken. Well guess what, his were broken. Remington did send him a new stock. So after he gets here I start in chastising the boy (24) for not taking care of said gun and not cleaning it. So after I remove the old stock I start cleaning it. As I ran the brush down the barrel from the crown, it got loose about 1 1/2 inches down and tightened back up after approx 1/2 inch. I took my bore light and looked in, it appeared to be bulged. I the took my micrometer and mic'ed the barrel. Sure enough there was approx 0.022 bulge in the barrel an inch and a half down. Well he called Remington and he sent it back to them. I will post what happens next with it. Kyle DID NOT shoot anything but standard pressure factory ammo, doenst remember ever having any clogging or debris in the barrel.

So would I ever buy a 770? Probably not, unless it was used, in good condiition and less than $100. Just my 0.02.

[kb4ns]

Dang. Big ole difference between 180gr & 200gr! Glad I picked up 180gr.

[kb4ns]

My 2nd cousing brought his 8 month old 770 in 308 over here last week to change the stock out. The sling mounts are formed into the stock and feel and look cheap and easily broken. Well guess what, his were broken. Remington did send him a new stock. So after he gets here I start in chastising the boy (24) for not taking care of said gun and not cleaning it. So after I remove the old stock I start cleaning it. As I ran the brush down the barrel from the crown, it got loose about 1 1/2 inches down and tightened back up after approx 1/2 inch. I took my bore light and looked in, it appeared to be bulged. I the took my micrometer and mic'ed the barrel. Sure enough there was approx 0.022 bulge in the barrel an inch and a half down. Well he called Remington and he sent it back to them. I will post what happens next with it. Kyle DID NOT shoot anything but standard pressure factory ammo, doenst remember ever having any clogging or debris in the barrel.

So would I ever buy a 770? Probably not, unless it was used, in good condiition and less than $100. Just my 0.02.

Wow. I knew the 770s were cheap, but that's not what I expected from Remington. really happy I went with a better rifle.

[buck1032]

I should also add that after my cousin left that day, I Google'ed Remington 770 barrel bulge and several hits came up.