Am I a criminal?????

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

I just finished readin where handguns are prohibited in Tn.

TCA 39-17-1305...Firearms are prohibited in any place where alcohol is served or sold.

This means every Applebees or Chilis?????

This means Wal Mart, K-Mart and every grocery store?????

What's the point in carrying a gun in Tennessee???

[molonlabetn]

I just finished readin where handguns are prohibited in Tn.

TCA 39-17-1305...Firearms are prohibited in any place where alcohol is served or sold.

This means every Applebees or Chilis?????

This means Wal Mart, K-Mart and every grocery store?????

What's the point in carrying a gun in Tennessee???

They don't serve alcohol in Wal-Mart.

The effect of that code is to prohibit the possession of firearms inside the building of any business which has a license to serve alcohol... not simply where it is sold. (the text you posted is obsolete, now it only says "served", not "served or sold")

It is correct that carrying in Applebees, Chilis, etc... is illegal.

[Marswolf]

Dusty, you misquote the code. It says, "(a) It is an offense for a person to possess a firearm within the confines of a building open to the public where liquor, wine or other alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 57-3-101(a)(1)(A), or beer, as defined in § 57-6-102(1), are served for on premises consumption."

[Mike.357]

What's the point in carrying a gun in Tennessee???

Even if what you posted was 100% correct are stores and restaurants the only places you go? Trouble lurks around every corner yanno!

[Marswolf]

BTW Dusty, I see you are in my neck of the woods. You just move into Tennessee?

If you are interested in a Tennessee Carry Permit, check out Unaka Rod and Gun Club. I think Phantom6 has already suggested Bob Camponovo for more intensive training.

Last time I checked, the Unaka course was on $50 and all proceeds went to the club.

[saintsfanbrian]

I like this part

open to the public

. Country Clubs are not open to the public. Shriners and Mason lodges are not open to the public. My companies holiday party is at a place where under normal circumstances would be open to the public but we have it rented out for the night. Since it is not open to the public, carrying should be just fine.

Not to mention - Concealed means concealed.

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

I posted exactly what was on the site regarding carrying in Tn. that I found on the web.

....... and it does say "served or sold."

[Guest tjbert47]

I posted exactly what was on the site regarding carrying in Tn. that I found on the web.

....... and it does say "served or sold."

What you found is very old and not current law. For current information try the DOS website.

Tom in TN

[Guest dotsun]

I wouldn't believe what you read on the web unless you have substantiation of the facts. Here's where I go to view TN code and a direct link to the statute you mis-cited:

http://www.michie.com/tennessee/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=

[Marswolf]

Dusty, you found an old source. Please use the address above for the current code.

This changed six or seven years ago.

[Guest canynracer]

ummm...yeah old code...read new code...and ummm, welcome to TGO???

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

I went to the site dotsun listed and read quite a bit regarding firearms. Geeezzz there's some scary stuff in there!!

[Guest TargetShooter84]

I know that its old information because I just had taken a class for permit about 6 months ago, it only said that places that served alcohol was prohibited (as of right now, but that could change if Bill 23 passes) but I have always wondered if carrying it into stores like Walmart/Target/Kmart would be ok or not? I worry bout causing attention with the detectors at the entrances but again, I've not heard any problems but dont want be embarrassed if that happens.

[strickj]

targetshooter the detectors at the entrances are NOT metal detectors ,they are securty detectors for those little plastic strips on the back of dvd's and ect...they ONLY go off when someone steals something.

dustyrodes just curious when did you get yor HCP?

ohh and btw welcome to TGO:wave:

[Guest bkelm18]

I know that its old information because I just had taken a class for permit about 6 months ago, it only said that places that served alcohol was prohibited (as of right now, but that could change if Bill 23 passes) but I have always wondered if carrying it into stores like Walmart/Target/Kmart would be ok or not? I worry bout causing attention with the detectors at the entrances but again, I've not heard any problems but dont want be embarrassed if that happens.

I used to have the same fear of setting off the detectors when I started carrying until I actually thought about it. Those detectors only detect that very specific strip of metal found in the merchandise in the store. They cannot detect the metal of a firearm or any other metal for that fact otherwise it would go off every time you walked through it with your car keys.

[canadienmike]

I've got a quick question...what about restaurants that don't sell alcohol but allow you to bring it in (Modell's in Franklin allows you to bring your own wine for a corking fee but doesn't sell alcohol itself). I went in the restaurant to pick up my wife recently and was carrying concealed. Did I break the law?

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

targetshooter the detectors at the entrances are NOT metal detectors ,they are securty detectors for those little plastic strips on the back of dvd's and ect...they ONLY go off when someone steals something.

dustyrodes just curious when did you get yor HCP?

ohh and btw welcome to TGO:wave:

I got it in Texas in 1996 and transferred it to Tn. when I moved here in 2000.

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

I've got a quick question...what about restaurants that don't sell alcohol but allow you to bring it in (Modell's in Franklin allows you to bring your own wine for a corking fee but doesn't sell alcohol itself). I went in the restaurant to pick up my wife recently and was carrying concealed. Did I break the law?

If the authorities split hairs every time they get a chance to take a gun away from a citizen then I expect that a good atty. could pull the same thing if the code says "premises where alcohol is SOLD for consumption"

Just a thought.

[Guest GlockFD]

this is good dtuff here guys, I am new to all of this and I am learning alot, keep it up

[Guest HogMan]

WELCOME TO TGO

[Guest canynracer]

I know that its old information because I just had taken a class for permit about 6 months ago, it only said that places that served alcohol was prohibited (as of right now, but that could change if Bill 23 passes) but I have always wondered if carrying it into stores like Walmart/Target/Kmart would be ok or not? I worry bout causing attention with the detectors at the entrances but again, I've not heard any problems but dont want be embarrassed if that happens.

They are not metal detectors...for some fun..get one of the security stickers from a dvd, or off a shirt and stick it on a buddy....good times...

More walmart fun..go to the housewares and set all of the alarm clocks to go off at the same time....

fun for hours in that place i tell ya:D

[Guest bkelm18]

I've got a quick question...what about restaurants that don't sell alcohol but allow you to bring it in (Modell's in Franklin allows you to bring your own wine for a corking fee but doesn't sell alcohol itself). I went in the restaurant to pick up my wife recently and was carrying concealed. Did I break the law?

Again, I believe the law states you cannot carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol. Since they are not technically serving you alcohol, I believe it would be legal. But I'd contact someone to get the official word.

[Guest bulletproof]

If those were metal detectors in the stores then the defibrillator in my chest, the shrapnel in my chest, the metal in my knee, would set them off every time. They love me at the airport.

[Daniel]

i wouldnt exactly call you bullet proof if you have shrapnel in your chest ^___^

[Schadenfreude]

FYI the strips on the goods at Wal-mart are embedded with something called an rfid chip the metal strip you see is only the antenna the detectors are sending out a radio frequency that actually powers a microchip in side, that strip it can store volumes of information & communicate with the detectors

It is how they intend to have a shopping cart that rings up the items as you drop them into the buggy & will have a credit/debit card reader built into the buggy as well - in development now

Wal-mart told all its suppliers they had to foot the bill for the rfid chips in every product sold in the store - it also makes inventory a breeze as you can walk up & down the isles with a hand held scanner & scan everything at once

There is also allot of talk about implanting these into children at the hospital - think big brother is watching now, just wait a few years

They already implant these into pets if you request it most vets can do it, the animal shelters can pull up the pet owners name address etc by scanning the animal