1911 triggers, etc

[Guest 6.8 AR]

My Springfield widebody shoots just fine and I am not sure

whether or not to replace some parts in it. Will a trigger

change, like a Dlast titanium/ magnesium, make it a better

shooter? I'm already changing to Kimber ambi safety and

have thought about getting a tighter barrel bushing, also.

Just curious for your thoughts.

[Kegger]

A trigger job by a 1911 smith will improve it immensely, no need to drop all that money on a new trigger.

A match bushing will help some with the bench accuracy, but the rest scmes down to you.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I understand my part of it. Appreciate your input.

Since it is 32 bucks, I wondered if it would do much.

How much is a trigger job? I haven't talked to too many

gunsmiths in a while.

[timcalhoun]

I understand my part of it. Appreciate your input.

Since it is 32 bucks, I wondered if it would do much.

How much is a trigger job? I haven't talked to too many

gunsmiths in a while.

A trigger by itself will make very little difference and depending on the shape of the back of the bow, it may or may not affect your grip safety.

Trigger jobs usually cost around 100 bucks but most guys will want to put better parts in it and that would be what I would do.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Thanks, Tim. I got the Brownells 1911 catalog and got all starry-eyed

at some parts. I do like to tinker, primarily to save money, but to get

in an improvement, also. That gunsmith in Gallatin may get to play with

my trigger next time I'm over there, but I may be playing with it first.

If you have any suggestion in which parts to be replaced, I'm all ears:D

I'm just starting to learn the 1911. I love to shoot it and will get another,

probably better one than what I have, but I have to have something to

play with.

[timcalhoun]

Thanks, Tim. I got the Brownells 1911 catalog and got all starry-eyed

at some parts. I do like to tinker, primarily to save money, but to get

in an improvement, also. That gunsmith in Gallatin may get to play with

my trigger next time I'm over there, but I may be playing with it first.

If you have any suggestion in which parts to be replaced, I'm all ears:D

I'm just starting to learn the 1911. I love to shoot it and will get another,

probably better one than what I have, but I have to have something to

play with.

I like C&S and EGW ignition parts. I like Ed Brown thumb and grip safeties. If you are going to do a trigger job I would replace hammer, sear and disconnect.

The reason why I'll put better trigger parts when doing a trigger job is because stock MIM parts are often surface hardened only and will last a very long time from the factory, but once you recut the sear and hammer the metal underneath is not nearly as hard and will wear quickly. So you pay for a trigger job that goes away too fast.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I knew I could get it out of you. That's the kind of talk I needed to hear.

I didn't know which brands and why, to look for. I'm kind of stuck with

Para style parts for this gun, but I plan to play with a single stack, also.

Thanks!

[timcalhoun]

I knew I could get it out of you. That's the kind of talk I needed to hear.

I didn't know which brands and why, to look for. I'm kind of stuck with

Para style parts for this gun, but I plan to play with a single stack, also.

Thanks!

Para style parts? All of the ignition parts are the same in a single stack or a double stack. About the only thing that is different is the trigger bow and the mag release.

Maybe that is not what you were meaning?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I didn't know that. I just found a trigger that allegedly

would fit. I assumed there were other idiosyncracies

with other parts. Thanks for straightening that out, too!

[timcalhoun]

I didn't know that. I just found a trigger that allegedly

would fit. I assumed there were other idiosyncracies

with other parts. Thanks for straightening that out, too!

Yep. Basically a wide body is a regular old 1911 with a fat grip so you can put more ammo in the thing.

[gotigers]

What they said about a smith trigger job with new sear, disconnect. Well worth the money. Those are parts you don't want to mess with unless you know exactly what you are doing.

[Guest DaG]

Used to Dawson Precision sold a drop in kit that consisted of a Koenig hammer, EGW sear, and a Dawson sear spring that would give you a 2lb trigger with a 15lb mainspring. I had one in my open gun and it was the shizzle!!! Also check with Brazos Custom. YMMV

DaG

[timcalhoun]

Before I started doing my own trigger work I used Brazos drop in groups, and as long and your pin holes are square and the pins themselves are good they will work great. He uses C&S parts.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I just got my ambi safety in from Kimber today. Makes it easier for this

old southpaw. that gave me an excuse to take my Springfield down

a bit farther. This is getting kind of fun.

I had to grind a little on the bottom of the right safety arm, due to the

beveling on the frame. It seems that my son's Rock Island is a little more

mil-spec than the Springfield, since he didn't have to deface any parts, yet.

I ground just enough to get the safety to function properly.

I can't wait to start playing with the ignition parts. I went to Brazos and looked

around, saw one kit around 149 bucks. Tuned Trigger Group, BCG - Pro Series

Is that the good stuff, Tim? Or should I start with something else?

One thing I know I want to do is shorten and lighten the trigger pull. The stock

trigger is too long and doesn't feel crisp, if that makes sense.

[timcalhoun]

I just got my ambi safety in from Kimber today. Makes it easier for this

old southpaw. that gave me an excuse to take my Springfield down

a bit farther. This is getting kind of fun.

I had to grind a little on the bottom of the right safety arm, due to the

beveling on the frame. It seems that my son's Rock Island is a little more

mil-spec than the Springfield, since he didn't have to deface any parts, yet.

I ground just enough to get the safety to function properly.

I can't wait to start playing with the ignition parts. I went to Brazos and looked

around, saw one kit around 149 bucks. Tuned Trigger Group, BCG - Pro Series

Is that the good stuff, Tim? Or should I start with something else?

One thing I know I want to do is shorten and lighten the trigger pull. The stock

trigger is too long and doesn't feel crisp, if that makes sense.

Yep, I really like Bob's trigger groups. You will most likely need to do some tweaking on the sear spring to get things the way you want them in your gun. But they break beautifully. Also, go to Bob's article section, he has a bunch of great stuff on there to help you tune that trigger after you get your parts. Bob builds amazing guns. I just bought one of his open guns for my son.

Tim

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I'll do that.

Thank you: D

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[Guest bipe215]

C & S have great drop in kits. I used a 5 piece kit on my new SA GI Champion and lowered the trigger pull to 3.5 lbs. All parts went in perfectly with no filing or adjustments.

Steve G