New Bill introduced proposing CCW in establishment serving liquor

[Marswolf]

We will never get one pro-gun bill through until things change in the makeup in the House. If that happens, we will get multiple bills through.

[dunndw]

So what's the actual status of 0702 now?

Action Def. in s/c Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD to 4/2/2008

[Guest Jamie]

Folks, I just read on the NRA-ILA site that there were 6 bills that were to be heard today:

Tennessee: Several Firearms-Related Bills to be Heard

House Bill 702, sponsored by State Representative Joe McCord (R-08), allows a person who has a valid Right-to-Carry permit to carry a firearm into restaurants where alcohol may be served, as long as the permit holder is not consuming alcohol or is not otherwise prohibited by posting provisions. This important Right-to-Carry reform measure passed the State Senate with a vote of 24 to 6 in January;

House Bill 3063, sponsored by State Representative Phillip Johnson (R-78), would ensure that employees are able to protect themselves as they travel to and from work by allowing them to store their firearms in their vehicles while at work. It prohibits any operator or owner of any parking lot from baring firearms in private vehicles; and

House Bill 3014, sponsored by State Representative Stacey Campfield (R-18), would authorize full-time faculty and staff with valid handgun carry permits to possess a firearm for self-defense at public schools, colleges, and universities in Tennessee upon completion of an annual firearms training course.

Right-to-Carry Permit Applications:

House Bill 3293, sponsored by State Representative Nathan Vaughn (D-02), would eliminate the statutory provision that prohibits a citizen who has voluntarily sought mental health treatment from obtaining a handgun carry permit. The legislation would instead create a seven-year limitation;

House Bill 3137, sponsored by State Representative Eddie Bass (D-65) and State Representative Mike Bell (R-23), restrict public access to the records of concealed Right-to-Carry permit holders and prohibit their publication; and

House Bill 3683, sponsored by State Representative Matthew Hill (R-07), would reduce the Right-to-Carry permit application fee from $115 to $100.

Okay... 2 died, one was deferred... How 'bout the other 3? Anybody know what happened with them?

J.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

I think the only one we have a chance at getting is House Bill 702... If we get any of the rest then its gravy.

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

3063 wasn't on the schedule.

3014 and 3293 both failed.

3137 and 3683 was deferred.

[Guest HexHead]

I think the only one we have a chance at getting is House Bill 702... If we get any of the rest then its gravy.

Personally, I don't care if we get any of the others now. I'm not sure of the wisdom of having so many pro-gun bills at the same time.

[Guest dotsun]

Personally, I don't care if we get any of the others now. I'm not sure of the wisdom of having so many pro-gun bills at the same time.

As an HCP holder I don't see the wisdom of having locations that I can't legally carry in that these pro-gun bills would correct.

[Mike.357]

none of this is any surprise, except for maybe them not killing off 702 yet. I see it as being on life support and the plug will be pulled at their earliest convenience.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Beretta Racer]

What we MUST do is contribute to the campaign of the Republican, or pro-gun Dem, who runs against Boss Hogg Naifeh and Deberry. Those two have to GO! And while we are at it Janis Sontany is as bad and needs to be tossed as well.

[waynesan]

That was my first thought Beretta.

[Marswolf]

Grassroots folks. Grassroots.

If your representative is an anti-gunner you need to politely tell them, in person if possible, how disappointed you are in them. You also need to pressure the local party folks (both parties) to find and run viable pro-gunners for office.

Give money if you can, but also offer volunteer time if a suitable candidate will run. Going door to door asking people to vote for your candidate often turns the tide in an election.

[Guest HexHead]

As an HCP holder I don't see the wisdom of having locations that I can't legally carry in that these pro-gun bills would correct.

I think we were biting off more than we could chew with so many bills at the same time for these idiots. They don't have the attention span to deal with it. It's a lot easier to just say no than to actually think about it.

The time to push for park carry would be when the National Park law is relaxed, then there is a precedent to use as an argument.

As for my comment about mainly caring about 0702, I eat out several times a week, I may go to a state park 1-2x a year.

[Guest dotsun]

It doesn't matter if there is 1 pro gun bill or 100, until the republicans win the house that committee's answer will be no.

[Guest Len]

Going door to door asking people to vote for your candidate often turns the tide in an election.

Especially true in local elections. State Rep. races (and even many State Senate races) are won at the one-on-one level. The person who knocks on more doors and who is better at interacting with those that answer said doors will usually win, all else being equal.

And NOW is the time to act. Incumbents are PROHIBITED from raising campaign funds while in session. I'm helping organize a campaign against an incumbent right now, and our goal is to have mega $ in the bank before the session ends. Incumbents have name recognition, but have their hands tied as long as the final gavel has not fallen.

(And yes, my candidate is a Democrat, fully supports RKBA, has a carry permit, and owns a nice collection of military arms. He does not carry a Glock, but no one is perfect...)

[Guest db99wj]

What we MUST do is contribute to the campaign of the Republican, or pro-gun Dem, who runs against Boss Hogg Naifeh and Deberry. Those two have to GO! And while we are at it Janis Sontany is as bad and needs to be tossed as well.

Don't forget Briley, he was very loud and opinionated yesterday during the session. Isn't he the belligerent drunk guy that was caught on tape?

[Marswolf]

(And yes, my candidate is a Democrat, fully supports RKBA, has a carry permit, and owns a nice collection of military arms. He does not carry a Glock, but no one is perfect...)

Len, the question isn't whether he is a Democrat, but whether he will vote party line when pressured to do so. If not, then why is he (or you ) a Democrat?

[GLOCKMEISTER]

I dont have a problem with Democrat's, its all about liberalism and conservatism to me. Some of the biggest Conservatives I know are Democrats.

[Marswolf]

But who are the liberals and who are the so-called conservatives?

Party labels, although imperfect do have consequences.

[Guest Boomhower]

(And yes, my candidate is a Democrate...... but no one is perfect

I never thought I'd hear u say that about a democrat, Len.

[chipperi]

Looks like all but 2 croaked because of our moron speaker Jimmy Naifeh.

House Speaker Jimmy Naifeh made an unusual visit Wednesday to a subcommittee hearing to cast votes that killed several handgun bills, including one that would have allowed diners to carry guns into restaurants.

Naifeh, who can cast votes in any House committee or subcommittee of his choosing, voted in three roll call votes that helped defeat bills in the Criminal Practice Subcommittee, as well as in a voice vote that defeated a fourth bill.

The votes killed a bill that would have permitted faculty and staff at public schools to carry handguns, one that would have allowed handguns in state parks and one that would have allowed people voluntarily committed to mental hospitals to get handgun licenses.

The fourth bill would have allowed guns in restaurants. The sponsor, Rep. Curry Todd, a Collierville Republican, said he was disappointed the bill died, and promised to bring it back next year. A similar bill, which has passed in the Senate and was recently the subject of a humorous spot on a late night comedy show, was deferred for two weeks. After the bills were voted down, Republicans criticized Naifeh, D-Covington, in a press release, saying that the committee was "stacked" for the vote and accusing him of "brazenly political efforts to scuttle commonsense rights for gun owners."

"I am disappointed that the Democratic leadership continually eats away at our most basic rights," House Republican Caucus Chairman Glen Casada, R-College Grove, said in the statement.

Addison Pate, the spokesman for the House Democrats, responded that "good legislation passes, bad legislation fails, regardless of the partisan side that the sponsor may be on."

Two other bills — one that would make applications for handgun carry permits confidential, the other that would make it a felony offense to publish carry permit information — passed a Senate committee Wednesday and are headed to floor votes. The House versions were delayed two weeks in subcommittees.

Edited March 20, 2008 by chipperi

[Marswolf]

All in all, you have to be a moron to support gun control/

[cadillacdude1975]

http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB0702.pdf

someone decipher that. its all chinese to me.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

means if the bill passed you can carry in a place that sells alcohol for on-site consumption.

[Guest canynracer]

Looks like all but 2 croaked because of our moron speaker Jimmy Naifeh.

I thought that 702 wasnt voted on???

so is the bill dead or not dead yet....im lost

[molonlabetn]

Bill is not dead yet... they (Jimmy, et al) decided to give it some special attention in a couple weeks, to prolong the misery. It looks pretty bleak at the moment, aside from the chance that the speaker somehow won't make it to the session on 4/2.