Border Security at last!! This is great stuff!

[Magiccarpetrides]

lol.....Alright I will say JT Ready...what a great name....looks pretty harmless, however some of his people did look straight outta American History X. However I saw no Swastikas and heard no white supremacist remarks. So I dont see where CBS gets off calling them Neo-Nazis. I dont think immigrants make this country any better if they don't contribute or obey our laws, or they arent willing to at least learn our language...I think thats what irritates me more then anything...live here and don't speak English but expect me to cater to your language. Next trip to Mexico try telling them they need to speak English...see where that gets ya.....or any other country for that matter.

[Il Duce]

Im beginning to think Strel and Basil Marceaux are the same person

[BrasilNuts]

Im beginning to think Strel and Basil Marceaux are the same person

I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that.:rofl:

[Mike.357]

becouse a fat bold neo nazi in that video 0.50s said he is ready to use deadly force with his assault rifle.

so that is kind of trigger happy. or does he supposed to say . im fat and im trigger happy

So where are you sure he is a nazi? The real shame is that he is out there because the Federal gov't will not enforce the law. He is out there legally. If I was out there, for whatever reason, I would be armed. If you are going armed you darn well better be ready to use deadly force.

So am I trigger happy?

Does that also make everyone on this board who carries a gun trigger happy?

At worst I see the men in that video as vigilantes, and in that role, doing what they are doing they are not breaking any laws. Where as the people they may come across out there are breaking laws and probably are very trigger happy.

What does his weight have to do with anything?

[jeremy155rr]

I'm going to translate this in my head to see why it aggravates me...

Mr. Leroy

real treat to this country are those Neo-nazis.

Bunch of unhappy fat and uneducated white supremacist "BTW prisons are full of those. remember the one who wonted to remove his tatto" with assault rifles redy to kill "like that fat guy said on that video",

that is nothing to be proud about it.

what makes this country great is Immigrants who come and make it better and better.

so bunch of Nazis looking at peoples skin color doesn't say welcome.

let me tell you old saying that goes back to Roman empire.

What a Smart Man is Ashamed for, stupid is proud of it

'Mr. Leroy, people that take pride in their country and want to protect it are the real dangers to our society. I would also like to go ahead and steroetype these white dudes and call them nazi's...because their white. I would like to further my stereotyping of the volunteers in the video by saying that they are fat, uneducated, and racist. Now I know they didn't say anything that would lead me to believe that but they are white, overweight, and have guns, so they must be stupid racists.'

- thats the first few sentences, I would like to take a break from my interpretation of what was said to make a personal statement about our country.

What makes the United States of America great are the immigrants who CAME and fought their oppressors to preserve for future generations a free nation.

Back to my imaginary translation starting with the immigration comment:

'What makes this country great are immigrants who come to this country and either a.) further their socialist agenda or b.) drain the economy and spread poverty and the slums that accompany them. So a bunch of white, fat, uneducated nazi racists (remember I said their obviously nazi white supremacists) that volunteer to patrol an area burdened by illegal immigration and drug trafficking are very unwelcoming to the very immigrants that make this country great.'

*end transmission... and I was wondering why that post aggravated me. Strel, nothing in that video led me to believe anything about the men volunteering on our border other than some of them were tacti-cool and the spokesman was obviously overweight (like a great deal of people). The reporter calling them neo-nazis, well, I didn't hear him ask them about any of that.

Edited July 24, 2010 by jeremy155rr

[Guest strelcevina]

So where are you sure he is a nazi? The real shame is that he is out there because the Federal gov't will not enforce the law. He is out there legally. If I was out there, for whatever reason, I would be armed. If you are going armed you darn well better be ready to use deadly force.

So am I trigger happy?

Does that also make everyone on this board who carries a gun trigger happy?

At worst I see the men in that video as vigilantes, and in that role, doing what they are doing they are not breaking any laws. Where as the people they may come across out there are breaking laws and probably are very trigger happy.

What does his weight have to do with anything?

sure.

calling a guy fat, wasn't insult there are OB , Fat , and mortally OB people

and he is Fat. that is just a fact. and was easy to recognize him on the video . bold and Fat.

and just google it and you will find that he is a Nazi

just look at him here . how much do you need to see the truth.

‘Americans First’ Leader Joins Neo-Nazi Protest | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center

Edited July 24, 2010 by strelcevina

[Mike.357]

okay, so the guy is a nazi. The new story from CBS offered no proof.

He was not acting like one protecting our border.

I did notice you did not mention the physique of anyone else in that news story. I think you having something against people who are overweight.

[Guest strelcevina]

okay, so the guy is a nazi. The new story from CBS offered no proof.

He was not acting like one protecting our border.

I did notice you did not mention the physique of anyone else in that news story. I think you having something against people who are overweight.

in the words of BulletTooth TONY. he was a Big bold Dick. between all those little balls .

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[Mike.357]

that went over my head, aside from not streaming very well

[RobD]

Ya'll are killing me.

First off lets be clear in our intent and language. While I can't spell worth a damn I try to be readable. When I read arguments in broken gramar and broken english on a board it makes me want to dismiss what you are saying.

Now I am sick and tired of Nazi being associated with conservatisim. NAZI-ism is by definition and by actions in pre-WWII Germany socialist. Spend 5 minutes of your life and look it up.

On to another point, just by watching the news story I would have had no profe that these people are Neo-Nazis. I have know way of knowing what is in someones mind other

than by seeing their actions.

So enough baiting the trolls for the day.....I'm gonna go try to find a Mossberg 500 that isnt $400.

[leroy]

Mr. Leroy

real treat to this country are those Neo-nazis.

Bunch of unhappy fat and uneducated white supremacist "BTW prisons are full of those. remember the one who wonted to remove his tatto" with assault rifles redy to kill "like that fat guy said on that video",

that is nothing to be proud about it.

what makes this country great is Immigrants who come and make it better and better.

so bunch of Nazis looking at peoples skin color doesn't say welcome.

let me tell you old saying that goes back to Roman empire.

What a Smart Man is Ashamed for, stupid is proud of it

Dear Mr strelcevina:_______________

I am going to make the assumption that you are a genuine émigré and not a socialist troll (…or mole, as it were…) who has infiltrated our little band.

I gather from your post that you may be a recent émigré and may not be familiar with our culture, history, and world view. With that thought in mind, I would like to take the time to point out a few things that you need to consider. Here they are:

First of all, the border issue has nothing to do with immigration. It has everything to do with political pandering by politicians of all political stripes in this country; and it has been going on for years. The absolute refusal of those in government at this juncture in history to enforce border sovereignty is an affront to this country and all its citizenry. It has nothing to do with Neo-Nazi-ism or any of that other malarkey. It has everything to do with political pandering, vote buying, greed, and influence peddling; and the people of this country well know that. In my view, the people responsible for thwarting the enforcement of border security are the real traitors in this story.

Secondly, you may have not learned this truth as yet; but freedom of political expression is guaranteed in this country. That means that you can associate with anyone you wish to associate with, adhere to any political view you choose (…no matter how heinous…), and engage in free political speech (…no matter how grievous and terrible to some hearers…). This is the only nation on the face of the earth where that happens. All these freedoms are guaranteed in the Constitution and outlined in the Bill of Rights.

That means that folks like Neo-Nazis or trash like the Southern Poverty Law Center (…which is neither southern nor a bastion of law in this country…) can say whatever they choose to say. The Neo-Nazis espouse racial superiority --- that’s free political speech. The Southern Poverty Law Center tries to intimidate and keep tabs on political groups they don’t like (…which is most everybody that’s not communist…)--- again; free political speech--- all the while purporting to be doing good things – what hypocrisy. It also means that the “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright can stand in the pulpit of a black Chicago church for decades and preach the socialist gospel of hate masquerading as a man of God, preaching socialism to the flock, demonizing this country, and spreading hatred for white folks; then retire to a Ten Million dollar villa in Chicago while admonishing his flock to eschew materialism and “keep the faith”--- again, incredible hypocrisy!. It means that the “La Raza” latino community can stand on the streets of Kalefornia and campaign for the militant latino community to take over Kalefornia first (…as far as I’m concerned, they can have it…) then the rest of this country. Again, all because we have freedom of political speech in this country.

Now to the issue of ‘Neo-Nazism”. The fact of the matter is that everything that the Nazis believed is not bad. They were fiercely nationalistic (…they loved their country—a valuable commodity today, in my opinion…). They hated socialism in all its forms (…another great trait in my view…). And they were willing to put their beliefs into action (…again, a valuable trait for any people group…). It is my personal belief that if they hadn’t been lead by a madman and had have left the Jews and other people groups alone; it would have been a hard sell, indeed, to get the US involved in WW2.

The fact is that prior to WW2 (…and well into it in some places…) there was a very powerful group of US Congressmen (…along with a large constituency of US citizens…) who were sympathetic to the German fight against socialism and who also thought that the German Nation as a whole had been terribly treated as the result of the Versailles Treaty at the end of WW1. In fact, the great French General, Marshall Foch predicted that the unreasonable terms of the Versailles Treaty would produce another German-European war within 20 years. He missed his prediction by 6 months. Additionally, there are those who believe that the Great Depression (…by the way, a world depression—not just a US Depression…) was caused by these unreasonable terms.

There are those who believe (…correctly, in my view…) that the US president Woodrow Wilson sold the Germans out in order to get his great pet, the League of Nations (…today’s UN…). There was (…and still is…) a large German-American population in this country. They were once émigré’s too. The history revisionists have painted all Germans as Nazis and, sadly, lots of people have believed the lie. That is no more the truth than saying that all blacks are lazy and on the dole and that all Latinos are illegals.

Now to the issue of “all immigrants making things better”… The fact is that in many (…not all…) cases that émigrés strive to make things better. We can point to notable successes in this area. There are, however, some notable failures (…some of them subversive, in my estimation…). Eastern European émigrés (…along with Bolshevik intellectuals ensconced in Ivy League universities of the northeast…) brought the concept of socialism to this country. Socialism is the very anthesis of principles that this country is founded on. Émigrés from the third and fourth great wave of immigration in this country helped to foment and participated in the majority of the labor disputes that rocked this country from the early nineteen hundreds thru the thirties when the great socialist Roosevelt tipped the scales for socialism by backing union demands for acceptance in the workplace.

This battle is continuing to this day. There is a very powerful minority in this country today who are working mightily to turn this country from the very place that started out so great, into a socialist “worker's paradise” where no one works and a group of socialist elites controls everything --- healthcare, banking, the auto industry, on and on---you get the picture. That group is currently occupying the White House now.

Now to the moral of this little epistle --- Don’t believe everything that some political demagogue tells you to believe just because it sounds good, fits your individual biases, or puts something in your pocket. Take a look at everything; even that that looks to be contrary to your sensibilities, examine the evidence, and then make your judgments. If you want to enjoy and practice the freedoms that have made this country the greatest place on the face of the earth, I believe that you had best take a good hard look at the battle that is going on now. You had better decide which side of this battle you are on; and start doing to ensure that the freedoms you enjoy now are preserved.

Food for thought.

Leroy

Edited July 25, 2010 by leroy
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[Guest strelcevina]

@leroy

with all do respect

after reading what you wrote, I can see that Nazis to you are nothing but a WWII book that you read or movie that you watched.

everything you said is based on fiction, and not reality. and makes same sense if i would Discuss Julius Cesar with you.

Socialism only exist in your Head it actually died 20 years ago.

just Like Nazism died 60 years ago.

only real difference from Nazis and Commies are,

commies say all people are equal

Nazis say only Specific Race are equal

everything else is pretty much as same

btw to people like you Vietnam is not a Country, but a War.

or still thinks that U.S makes best stuff in the world.

[leroy]

@leroy

with all do respect

after reading what you wrote, I can see that Nazis to you are nothing but a WWII book that you read or movie that you watched.

everything you said is based on fiction, and not reality. and makes same sense if i would Discuss Julius Cesar with you.

Socialism only exist in your Head it actually died 20 years ago.

just Like Nazism died 60 years ago.

only real difference from Nazis and Commies are,

commies say all people are equal

Nazis say only Specific Race are equal

everything else is pretty much as same

btw to people like you Vietnam is not a Country, but a War.

or still thinks that U.S makes best stuff in the world.

I see my little epistle was a waste on you.

Leroy

[Guest strelcevina]

I see my little epistle was a waste on you.

Leroy

Not at all.

Nazis are nothing else than Occupators and Killers.

not just Man killers but baby's ,lady's and old people to. just go to any European country and you will see that .

and it is proven fact, that people of lesser educational level and lesser social class have tendency to join those kind of group .

hence the largest Population of Nazis in U.S are in Prison.

in this all thread all i got was, how do you know he is a nazi, don't believe everything u hear

and after i presented a picture of Fat bold Nazi guy what ever his name is, all i got was Ok. he is nazi. move along.

funny that people would sell their sole to devil to save them self .

[Guest bkelm18]

I see my little epistle was a waste on you.

Leroy

Strel is a waste, your post was not. It was a very well thought out and informative response to the blatherings of a socialist. Unfortunately it fell on deaf ears.

[USMCJG]

Good post overall Leroy. I just have to take exception to one little point.

They hated socialism in all its forms

The Nazi's were in fact socialists- The National Socialist German Worker's Party. They did however hate communists. Otherwise, good work. But with strel it is falling on deaf ears.

[Guest strelcevina]

Good post overall Leroy. I just have to take exception to one little point.The Nazi's were in fact socialists- The National Socialist German Worker's Party. They did however hate communists. Otherwise, good work. But with strel it is falling on deaf ears.

they hated Everybody, Slavs judes, Europeans everybody but 100% clean German.

they hated Americans to for a reason of not being clean.

btw largest population of Nazis live in Russia. and they are not German descend , but 100% Russian

[USMCJG]

they hated Everybody, Slavs judes, Europeans everybody but 100% clean German.

they hated Americans to for a reason of not being clean.

btw largest population of Nazis live in Russia. and they are not German descend , but 100% Russian

What does any of this have to do with my post?

[Guest strelcevina]

What does any of this have to do with my post?

you failed to say that they hated everybody.

if somebody reads your post, could understand that nazis are fine just becouse they hate communists.

just like recruiters or creditors do , they just tell you part that you wont to hear.

[USMCJG]

you failed to say that they hated everybody.

if somebody reads your post, could understand that nazis are fine just becouse they hate communists.

just like recruiters or creditors do , they just tell you part that you wont to hear.

I don't really think that anyone but you could make the leap that I meant that Nazis were okay because they hated communists. I was simply saying that Nazi's hated communists but they WERE socialists, like you.

[Guest strelcevina]

I don't really think that anyone but you could make the leap that I meant that Nazis were okay because they hated communists. I was simply saying that Nazi's hated communists but they WERE socialists, like you.

im more Capitalist than you would ever believe.

let me ask you a question.

what would make me a capitalist in your opinion ?

[Guest nozzle13]

Would it be that you make all of the money you can to send back to one of the stans?

[R1100R]

Would it be that you make all of the money you can to send back to one of the stans?

Now that just struck me as too funny!!!! LOL

Edited July 25, 2010 by R1100R

[Guest strelcevina]

Would it be that you make all of the money you can to send back to one of the stans?

i do make a lot and keep it for my self:)

how about that

[USMCJG]

im more Capitalist than you would ever believe.

let me ask you a question.

what would make me a capitalist in your opinion ?

Not coming to this forum and spouting socialist rhetoric on a regular basis would be a nice start. If something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck. You're a duck.