The Legislature is back to work in Nashville..

[Fallguy]

Two bills scheduled to be heard in the Senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow.

SB 1440 CRIMINAL LAW: Increases handgun permit fee

Increases the handgun permit from $115 to $130. Requires $15.00 of the fee be sent to the sheriff of the county in which the applicant resides for purposes of reimbursing the sheriff for costs associated with performing eligibility checks. (HOUSE: HB 1800, Turner L.; Referred to House Judiciary Criminal Practice Subcommittee.) FISCAL NOTE: Dated: March 22, 2007 Increase state expenditures - $11,000. Increase local govt. revenues - $248,000.

SB 0023 CRIMINAL LAW: Possession of firearm where alcohol is served

Permits a person who has a permit to carry a handgun to carry gun in place where alcohol is served for consumption on premises if person not consuming alcohol or is not otherwise prohibited by posting provisions. (HOUSE: HB 0702, McCord; Referred to House Judiciary Criminal Practice Subcommittee.) FISCAL NOTE: Dated: January 5, 2007 Decrease local govt. revenues - not significant. Decrease local govt. expenditures - not significant.

Committee members are Chair Beavers ®, Vice Chair Jackson (D), Secretary Woodson ®, Black ®, Kyle (D), Marrero (D), Norris ®, Stanley ®, Wilder (D).

The committee phone number is 615-741-7821

Individual members can be looked up here.

[Guest 2HOW]

Still waitin for carry on state property and buildings.

[Mike.357]

I can see 1440 passing along, but the other has no hope of getting out of committee

[EMTRN]

Not as long as Kyle is voting.

[The Rabbi]

Still waitin for carry on state property and buildings.

I'll gladly take one thing at a time. The second bill is a firm step in the right direction. Let's focus on getting that one passed.

[Fallguy]

Still waitin for carry on state property and buildings.

You can carry on state property and buildings in general, unless they are posted. The only state property off-limits by statute is state parks.

[Guest canynracer]

hell I would agree with the first if they pass the second!!! I HAVE my permit and I would send in the extra 15 bucks!!

[Guest 270win]

I don't know of a specific statute that prohibits firearms in state parks, except the having a firearm inhabited by big game. That could be any set of woods and seems to be something that would be used against a poacher. You guys are right that we can presently carry inside a state owned building unless it is posted. Kinda silly that some government employee can throw up a sign to keep me from carrying unless i'm willing to risk a 500 dollar fine.

[Guest 270win]

Great bill that will be in the senate subcomm tomorrow I might add. I am so glad the bill that is being introduced and heavily touted doesn't have any requirements that the location be a 'restuarant' or sell a certain amount of food.

[Fallguy]

I don't know of a specific statute that prohibits firearms in state parks, except the having a firearm inhabited by big game. That could be any set of woods and seems to be something that would be used against a poacher. You guys are right that we can presently carry inside a state owned building unless it is posted. Kinda silly that some government employee can throw up a sign to keep me from carrying unless i'm willing to risk a 500 dollar fine.

T.C.A. 39-17-1311 at least according to TN AG No 07-148 (Question 3)

[Guest 270win]

I don't think the attorney general is looking at where 39-17-1302(a) is referenced as what is prohibited in a park under 39-17-3911 or does not want to acknowledge a whole statute. An opinion is just an opinion that has not been decided by a high court of the state. I would be leery of having an exposed handgun in a park because of the opinion that some police go by for arrests/citations.

[Fallguy]

I don't think the attorney general is looking at where 39-17-1302(a) is referenced as what is prohibited in a park under 39-17-3911 or does not want to acknowledge a whole statute. An opinion is just an opinion that has not been decided by a high court of the state. I would be leery of having an exposed handgun in a park because of the opinion that some police go by for arrests/citations.

I agree with you in refrence to 39-17-1302(a), that is why I asked my Rep to submit those questions and don't really agree with the opinion as I posted in this thread.

Just another reason I'd like to see a complete overhaul of the firearms laws.

[Guest Boomhower]

hell I would agree with the first if they pass the second!!!

I can agree with that. They earmark everything else with a bunch of mumbo jumbo that doesn't even belong in a certain bill, so it would seem justifiable.

[strickj]

Still waitin for carry on state property and buildings.

this has been up before(like court houses..etc...)but gets rejected cause of the cost realated to the change,ie..new signs,labor(takes two men,one hour @ $20.00 an hour )and added officers for the extra guns walking around.

while the "carry in restraunt/alcohol" wont cast anything.

[The Rabbi]

Was it just me or did anyone else have the first thought on seeing the thread title

"Better guard the women and cattle!"??

[Fallguy]

You can watch the committee meeting live at 3:30 pm by checking here

The video link is active a little before the meeting time, but can't remember exactly how soon.

[Marswolf]

You can watch the committee meeting live at 3:30 pm by checking here

The video link is active a little before the meeting time, but can't remember exactly how soon.

Thanks for the link!

Lets' not let this topic degrade into a yet-another 39-17-1302 thread. We've done it to death. The AG is an idiot. Until we get a sensible non-anti-gun Governor, it ain't gonna change.

Unfortunately as long as anti-gunners are in charge of the House and Governor's mansion, nothing will get done. Get used to it - and elect better people to represent you!

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

I would gladly pay the extra $15 if they would also pass SB 0023. Having to disarm everytime I go out to eat is simply ridiculous. The criminals don't do it, but the law abiding citizens do. Of course I am preaching to the choir on this I know. Sorry just had to vent.

[Marswolf]

How about just letting all of us pack who don't have a felony conviction?

The felons are going to pack anyway, if they choose. They get a bunch of years at our expense to think about it.

At least the rest of us get to have some protection against them.

[saintsfanbrian]

#1 will probably pass because it means more money to the government.

#2 will not pass because Neifeh is an idiot.

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

I sent an email to all of the Judiciary Com members. That should really get things moving.

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

I just watched the Judiciary committee hearing on SB 0023, it passed 8 to 1 and is being sent to Calendar (whatever that means). Not sure who voted against it, but I am 99% sure it was Senator Meraro since she is the only one that argued against it.

[Guest vandutton]

It goes to full session tonight at 5 p.m. Send those e-mails TODAY!!!!!

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

Vandutton, I missed last nights session. Are you, or is anyone else here, aware of how it turned out?

[Guest Medic908]

Information on this page is generally current to within an hour.

*SB0023 by *Jackson, *Norris, *Kilby. (HB0702 by *McCord.)

Criminal Offenses - Allows person who has permit to carry a handgun to carry gun in place where alcohol is served for consumption on premises if person is not consuming alcohol or is not otherwise prohibited by posting provisions. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13.

Summary for *SB0023/HB0702

Fiscal Note for SB0023 / HB0702 filed under SB0023

Amendments to SB0023

Fiscal MemosNo Amendments for HB0702

SA0830 -- Amendment 1-0 to SB0023

Senate Votes on SB0023

Bill History Section

Actions Taken on SB0023

Action Date

Actions Taken on HB0702

Action Date

Placed on Sen. Regular Calendar (1) cal. for 01/16/20081/15/2008Assigned to s/c Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD2/21/2007S. Reset on Cal. for 1/16/2008 1/14/2008P2C, ref. to Judiciary2/12/2007Placed on Sen. Regular Calendar (1) cal. for 01/14/20081/10/2008Intro., P1C.2/8/2007Rec. for pass; ref to S. Cal. Comm.1/8/2008Filed for intro.2/7/2007Placed on S. Jud Comm. cal. for 01/08/20081/7/2008Assigned to Gen. Sub of: S. Jud Comm.5/16/2007Action Def. in S. Jud Comm. to 5/16/20075/15/2007Placed on S. Jud Comm. cal. for 05/15/20075/9/2007Action Def. in S. Jud Comm. to 5/15/20075/9/2007Placed on Jud. comm cal. for 5/9/075/9/2007Action Def. in S. Jud Comm. to 5/9/20075/8/2007Placed on S. Jud Comm. cal. for 05/08/20075/2/2007Action Def. in S. Jud Comm. to 5/8/20075/1/2007Placed on S. Jud Comm. cal. for 05/01/20074/25/2007Ref. to S. Jud Comm.1/20/2007P2C held on desk pending comm. appointments1/10/2007Intro., P1C.1/9/2007Filed for intro.1/3/2007