Question about contracts

[strickj]

Can I witness my own contract signing?

If I give someone a contract\agreement for my services that has space for a witness signature, can I sign that in lieu of a third party?

I know it may be a dumb question....but I'm an idiot

[TGO David]

You can but it's not likely to hold much water if the contract is ever contested.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Why would you want to ? It's not a necessary element for a contract.

[Desert Rat]

I had what I thought was a binding contract that was witnessed by two others. When the contractor faulted I was told that with enough for lawyers fees eventually I might get reimbursed but the contract was only worth the paper it was printed on as I did not have it drawn up by a lawyer so it was not a valid legal document.

[Guest Glock23ForMe]

I had what I thought was a binding contract that was witnessed by two others. When the contractor faulted I was told that with enough for lawyers fees eventually I might get reimbursed but the contract was only worth the paper it was printed on as I did not have it drawn up by a lawyer so it was not a valid legal document.

I thought anything that was drawn up and signed by two parties and/or a witness and stuff was a valid "legal" document?

[Mike.357]

I know it may be a dumb question....but I'm an idiot

harumph

[Dad03]

Man have I been through this!

Does not matter how many signatures you get or who draws it up. If the party wants to screw you the only recourse is in the courts. You file against the opposing party, opposing party counters on frivolous claims but just to muddy the waters, courts are so tied up in bankrupcies & budget cuts (more important issues) it gets dragged out. Opposing attorney files countless motions to dismiss based on nonsense (courts allow this!!!!). Runs up your attorney fees in answering motions. You get screwed in the "judicial shuffle" (change of judges) You spend a ton on your legal fees only to be sent to Remediation. (what ever it was called) options are to settle for what amounts to your legal fees or continue with more of the above.

Basically should have bent over in the begining to save the time and aggravation. At least the Attorneys got paid.

Edited July 7, 2010 by Dad03

[Mike.357]

Basically should have bent over

I think Strick will like this option

[Guest 6.8 AR]

A contract, to be enforceable, must be in writing, and signed by both parties, each have a copy.

The contract while stating conditions to be met, may have to be made good in a court. You still

have to be careful who you deal with. Seems there are quite a few who don't value them, but

it is always better to have a valid contract than to not. A lawyer doesn't have to be the one to

write a contract.

The simpler the terms of a contract makes it the easier to enforce in the end. It also makes it

easier to perform.

"I think Strick will like this option ;)" as long as it's part of the contract:D

Edited July 7, 2010 by 6.8 AR

[Guest Lester Weevils]

For the big bucks, contracts are sometimes enforceable, worth getting the lawyers involved.

On smalltime, contracts IMO are no better than a handshake. The contract is only as good as the honor of the folks signing on the dotted line.

Contracts are VERY useful smalltime even if it doesn't really protect from default. If the agreement is detailed enough, it avoids misunderstandings later on. Once the contractor has fulfilled the items on the paper, its time to get paid. A lot of times, customers won't really try to take advantage of you, but they keep thinking up new things that would be nice to have included on the project. So without a good detailed contract, new requirements keep getting invented, and you end up working for nothing on a project that never ends.

[tnhawk]

I've got a few rolls of contract form paper. They were mislabeled as toilet paper.

[DaveTN]

Can I witness my own contract signing?

If I give someone a contract\agreement for my services that has space for a witness signature, can I sign that in lieu of a third party?

You can if the other party agrees to it.

But to avoid any problems later I would write N/A on the signature line and have both parties initial it to show you are both aware there is no third party "Witness".

Of course if there is a problem it really doesn’t matter. At that point it all comes down to who can afford the best attorney.

[Guest Glock23ForMe]

You can if the other party agrees to it.

But to avoid any problems later I would write N/A on the signature line and have both parties initial it to show you are both aware there is no third party "Witness".

Of course if there is a problem it really doesn’t matter. At that point it all comes down to who can afford the best attorney.

Would you have to have a witness to sign that you all agreed there were no witnesses?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Can I witness my own contract signing?

If I give someone a contract\agreement for my services that has space for a witness signature, can I sign that in lieu of a third party?

I know it may be a dumb question....but I'm an idiot

Get a bigger pic of that girl's legs for your avatar and you'll be less of an idiot:D