Can I bring an ex-felon to the gun range?

[Guest jackdm3]

What do the green lights signify?

[Guest Caveman]

What do the green lights signify?

It is illegal for non-emergency personnel to put a light bar with red or blue lights on their vehicle, so a lot of security companies will buy light bars with yellow or green lights to put on their security vehicles. Which means a wannabe cop like me is only allowed green or yellow, I chose green.

Edited July 8, 2010 by Caveman

[Fallguy]

It is illegal for civilians to put a light bar with red or blue lights on their vehicle, so a lot of security companies will buy light bars with yellow or green lights to put on their security vehicles. Which means a wannabe cop like me is only allowed green or yellow, I chose green.

You mean non-emergency personal.....since all non-military LEOs, Firefighters and Paramedics are civilians as well.

[Guest Caveman]

You mean non-emergency personal.....since all non-military LEOs, Firefighters and Paramedics are civilians as well.

Actually, I meant non-emergency PERSONNEL. Thanks for the correction.

[robbiev]

Plus still think that if you have physical control of the firearm (literally on your person) the felon may be ok.....but anything where he could have constructive possession could be bad for him.

I wish I had links, but at the moment, I don't. Based on what I have read, several superior courts have held that constructive possession includes not only access, but intent. So simply being in the vincinity of a gun does not, in and of itself, mean the felon has constructive possession. The felon must have had the ability and also displayed intent to control the gun.

[Fallguy]

Actually, I meant non-emergency PERSONNEL. Thanks for the correction.

LMFAO.....if you only knew how many times I have corrected others for the same thing you caught me on. Guess that is what happens when you're not paying attention.

...Got you're right....

[Fallguy]

I wish I had links, but at the moment, I don't. Based on what I have read, several superior courts have held that constructive possession includes not only access, but intent. So simply being in the vincinity of a gun does not, in and of itself, mean the felon has constructive possession. The felon must have had the ability and also displayed intent to control the gun.

Interesting. ...and makes sense in some situations at least.

[robbiev]

Interesting. ...and makes sense in some situations at least.

Found this. I have some more information at home and will post it later if I can find it.

From Commonwealth v. Heidler, "In order to prove joint constructive possession, the Commonwealth ... must prove that Appellant had both the power to control and the intent to control the firearm. Commonwealth v. Magwood, 538 A.2d 908, 909-10 (Pa. Super. 1988)."

[Mike.357]

btw who carries a dang hcp badge that's just asking for trouble

a truly respectable HCP'er will be wearing a CCW badge.

cavey said

I do not carry a badge, nor do I drive a decommissioned cop car.

you wear the badge and the only reason you don't drive the decommissioned squad car is SUNTZU won't give it back.

Edited July 8, 2010 by Mike.357