Have aquestion about selling a handgun.

[Guest bte]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place.

Anyway I'm selling a handgun and was contacted by someone of hispanic ethnicity. Not, that I think they are illegally here but what steps or required information should I ask them to provide..

I understand is question could be taken the wrong way and that is not the intent. Just looking for others input as I've never thought about it until now.

Hope it's not taken the wrong way.

[McAllyn]

If you have reasonable suspicion that he lives in Tennessee, you don't need any paperwork. If you have reasonable suspicion that he shouldn't be living in Tennessee, you don't want to mess with it.

Mac

[canadienmike]

You could ask to see a drivers license, since you have to be a citizen or permanant resident to get one. If he has one, chances are he can own a handgun. If he doesn't have a DL, walk away.

[Guest Boogieman]

If you have no reason to believe the man is either here illegally or a felon then you are clear to sell. If it would make you feel better about selling to him require to see his TN drivers license to validate. If everything is on the up and up he should have no problem providing that to you. I personally would have no problem showing a license to a seller if asked for it. In the end you are the one sticking your neck out by selling to a private party and if you dont feel comfortable with the buyer then dont sell to them.

[Guest bte]

You could ask to see a drivers license, since you have to be a citizen or permanant resident to get one. If he has one, chances are he can own a handgun. If he doesn't have a DL, walk away.

That is what I would do, but at one time TN would issued DL's (or something similar) to illegal. I'm not sure if that is still the case, trying to find out

[Chucktshoes]

That is what I would do, but at one time TN would issued DL's (or something similar) to illegal. I'm not sure if that is still the case, trying to find out

Gotta provide documentation of citizenship or lawful residency to get a TNDL. I know they used to issue those pink DL's for certain non citizen types. It was good as a DL but not ID, not sure if they still do.

If it is a normal looking TNDL then they have shown the state they belong here.

[canadienmike]

Gotta provide documentation of citizenship or lawful residency to get a TNDL. I know they used to issue those pink DL's for certain non citizen types. It was good as a DL but not ID, not sure if they still do.

If it is a normal looking TNDL then they have shown the state they belong here.

Unless it's changed in the last couple of years, you couldn't get a DL without showing citizenship or permanant residence. Before I got my green card (was on a work visa) I was issued a driving certificate that couldn't be used as ID, only for driving.

[DarrellG]

You could see if a local FFL would handle a transfer to the buyer.

[Links2k]

Hell, I had to go back home to get my birth certificate to renew my handgun permit last year. So, if he has a Tn DL he should be good to go.

[SavageSig]

If an out of stater is posted at fort Campbell, it's ok to sell to them like they were a local resident right?

[byrnemm]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you could ask for his voter's registration.

that would prove they aren't a felon just like a HCP.

[Guest bkelm18]

If an out of stater is posted at fort Campbell, it's ok to sell to them like they were a local resident right?

Yes, you are correct.

ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons

Q: What constitutes residency in a State? The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,†in the General Information section of this publication.

[18 U.S.C. 921(, 922(a) (3), and 922((3), 27 CFR 478.11]

[SavageSig]

Yes, you are correct.

ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons

Thanks for the confirmation

[Capbyrd]

If something raised your hair about this, I would suggest asking the guy to go through an FFL. Its not that expensive. And if the guy won't do it, then you know something is up.

[Volzfan]

I wouldn't do it. There are a lot of fake/forged documents in the Hispanic communities. Even if he's legal and had all of the correct documents he could be buying it for someone who is not. Since all of my guns have come thru dealers and could be traced back to me, I wouldn't take the chance myself. If you bought it from an individual then that would be a different story.

Edited June 16, 2010 by Volzfan

[craglawnmanor]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you could ask for his voter's registration.

that would prove they aren't a felon just like a HCP.

It would take me quite some time to track down my voter registration card. I know it's in the house somewhere...

But, of course, when I vote, I just use my TNDL, and let them verify.

[Armed Aviator]

A famous line from Monty Python's Holy Grail . . . RUN AWAY.... RUN AWAY!!!!!

[Guest FiddleDog]

I know a lot of people that will only sell to HCP holders...if he's got one of those, than I wouldn't see a problem with it.

[John]

If he has an HCP I would sell it without a second thought.

Legally, for you, TNDL should be good enough, if you get a copy for records sake, I probably wouldn't think twice about it, that way if someone comes knocking you can always show documentation.

[BigPoppa]

I wouldn't do it. There are a lot of fake/forged documents in the Hispanic communities. Even if he's legal and had all of the correct documents he could be buying it for someone who is not.

And the same thing could be said of Caucasian, African-American, Asian, etc. buyers.

[strickj]

I wouldn't do it. There are a lot of fake/forged documents in the Hispanic communities. Even if he's legal and had all of the correct documents he could be buying it for someone who is not. Since all of my guns have come thru dealers and could be traced back to me, I wouldn't take the chance myself. If you bought it from an individual then that would be a different story.

Wow.

[Oh Shoot]

You could see if a local FFL would handle a transfer to the buyer.

If something raised your hair about this, I would suggest asking the guy to go through an FFL. Its not that expensive. And if the guy won't do it, then you know something is up.

No you wouldn't.

An extra 30 (minimum) smackers on a deal would break most of them for me. Unless the seller wants to pay it.

- OS

Edited June 17, 2010 by OhShoot