Iranian Revolutionary Guards offer to guard freedom flotilla

[towerclimber37]

Reuters AlertNet - Iran Revolutionary Guards ready to escort Gaza ships

(Corrects quote in paragraph 2 to make clear reference is to Revolutionary Guards naval forces) TEHRAN, June 6 (Reuters) - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards are ready to provide a military escort to cargo ships trying to break Israel's blockade of Gaza, a representative of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Sunday. "Iran's Revolutionary Guards naval forces are fully prepared to escort the peace and freedom convoys to Gaza with all their powers and capabilities," Ali Shirazi, Khamenei's representative inside the Revolutionary Guards, was quoted as saying by the semi-official Mehr news agency. Any intervention by the Iranian military would be considered highly provocative by Israel which accuses Iran of supplying weapons to Hamas, the Islamist movement which rules Gaza. The Guards, with their own navy, air force and command structure separate from the regular armed forces, are seen as fiercely loyal to the values of the Islamic Republic. "If the Supreme Leader issues an order for this then the Revolutionary Guard naval forces will do their best to secure the ships," Shirazi said. "It is Iran's duty to defend the innocent people of Gaza."

that's not all of it, go to Reuters to get the full article.

so do you think they're bluffing?

[Guest DeadEye]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

[Mark@Sea]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

You wanna explain that comment. You really do.

[mikegideon]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

You think they're crabby now. Wait til the Iranians pull this crap. I feel and ass whippin' coming... a well deserved one.

[Mike.357]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

I would like to read the reasoning behind this comment

[towerclimber37]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

Ok, I'll bite. How is defending your country by enforcing a blockade comparable to gassing 6 million Unerwünschten?

[Mark@Sea]

The Iranians might get ride-along priveleges with the Turks. The Turks are about to ram their wedding tackle into a sausage grinder - but they are looking to provoke a war with Israel anyway, to prove their bona fides with Tehran. Obama is gonna do diddly squat, relying on his "kick me in the nuts" style of diplomacy until it is very much too late.

If the Israelis allow their (completely legal and fully justified) blockade to be lifted, it will cause untold deaths in Israel and Gaza.

They should just skip the preliminaries and put a couple of fish into the MV Rachel Corrie, and pour ASMs into any turk naval vessel that says boo.

[eapking]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

Wow! This gets my vote for the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum.

[Smith]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

I guess you'd be in favor of the Russian Spatnaz escorting Mexican illegals across our border as well, huh?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

You would be at the end of your rope, too, if you gave land up for a bunch

of squatters that live off dirt and are pawns for people who shoot rockets at you. The last time Ben Netanyahu was PM, Israel gave up a lot of land for

a peace that lasted what, a week? They should take the land back and put the islamic dogs out of their misery, this time.

I'm not sure if I have this right, so someone help me out. The name Iran came

out of a suggestion by Hitler's ambassador or envoy to Persia(?) It means

something like "Nazi". Those are the one to compare to Nazi's.

[Mark@Sea]

Iran - Aryan

It takes weapons grade stupidium, on par with those who rush straight from their mailbox to the timeshare scam to pick up their free large screen TV, to buy off on the con that Iran and Turkey are trying to pull. The only other explanation is a medical condition commonly treated by a 168gr injection, most effective when applied just below the dishrag.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Thanks, Mark. I knew it was something like that:D

[-boatman-]

Wow! This gets my vote for the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum.

+1, I had to read it the second time to make sure I was reading it correctly.

[towerclimber37]

Deadeye, Deadeye? would you care to substantiate your assertion? hello?

Edited June 7, 2010 by towerclimber37

[Guest CrazyLincoln]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college......

Edited June 7, 2010 by CrazyLincoln

[Worriedman]

Might be a good idea, since the Israelis have been acting worse than the Nazi's!

[Guest Ae-35]

Guess he's not willing to back-up that statement with any facts.

[strickj]

My guess is deadeye has been to busy selling walmart ammo to answer any questions...

[leroy]

Looks to me like the Iranian Revolutionary Guard volunteers may turn into martyrs. I've yet to understand what has happened to the Turks in regard to this situation. They can obtain nothing but grief with sparring with the Israelis. My guess is that the Israelis will give this whole bunch a spanking. This whole blockade running thing is akin to poking a hornet's nest.

Just found this on the Libertarian Republican Blog Site. It is a great analysis and food for thought. Link here: http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2010/06/first-israel-then-europe-then-we-too.html

Saturday, June 5, 2010

First Israel, then Europe, then we too will fall to the Sword of Islam here in the United States

by Jim Lagnese, The Right Guy

What has become apparent in these last few days if not confirmed is that Israel (and the United States) are judge by a different standard than the rest of the world.

We have found out the the peace protesters attacked the Israeli commandos. We then found out they were armed. They we find out that they had stun grenades. Then we find out they were funded by the Turks. Yet the onus is on the Israelis. Somehow they should have given the peace terrorists a bouquet of flowers and kissed them on the lips. Is there something wrong here?

When we look to the rest of the world, North Korea sinks a South Korean Naval vessel in South Korean waters and nothing happens. Everyone is more afraid of China than they are of us or anyone else. This is just a continuation of the Obama Obsequiousness World Tour. No bad deed will be punished, unless of course it's allegedly perpetrated by the US or Israel. It fits Obama's narrative that the US has been the purveyor of evil in the world.

And what about evil? Ahmedinejad calls for the destruction of Israel, not on one occasion but continually over the years, while he now has enough material to create 2 nuclear weapons. Hamas' mantra is what? The destruction of Israel.

Pat Buchanan and rest of the anti-Israel malcontents will say, what does the destruction of Israel have to do with the US?

He predictably chimed in:

That bloody debacle in the Eastern Mediterranean last Sunday was an inevitable result of Israel doing what it always seems to do: going beyond what is essential to her security, to impose collective punishment upon any and all it regards as hostile to Israel.

Take a few steps back and look at the proponents behind this. It's islam, it's global jihadists. It's not about the fact we are the best or the richest, or the freest. It's about a world view that sees the end game as a global caliphate. In spite of the assertion that Israelis forced out palestinians, whatever that is, the jews were forced out by muslims over 1000 years ago, continuing the diaspora. So who forced who out first?

Look at the muslim invasion of Europe, now in its third iteration. Sharia law is allowed in the UK, and Rowan Williams sees Sharia and Islam dominance in England and Europe as inevitable. They are giving up without a fight (and people in this country worry about Mexicans. In time we will want them with open arms compared to the coming muslim problem).

So while the destruction of Israel doesn't raise a few hackles, who's next after them? Us of course. The problem is, we have no Charles Martel in our time. By the time the west recognizes there is a problem, it won't matter. We want to be so open minded as to let bad things in and accept them. Aristotle said that "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." A wise man whose ideas have been forgotten by most. The rational mind has been supplanted by the feeling one.

While I am not an interventionist, I think we need to recognize threats when they arise. It's the rational thing to do. Criticizing Israel is just an attempt by those who would enjoy her destruction to foment that in an incremental fashion because of the accurately perceived weakness that our enemies and other countries who interests are not the same as our own see in Obama and his regime. They know this stranger lover will throw his own under the bus in order to be loved by those that hate him. He's a deranged narcissist and cannot help himself. The result is that those outside out circle have grown hungry in their appetite for our destruction and the destruction of of allies. It's a case of malignant and pro-active schadenfreude on their part.

So some will ask, why not bring these people into our inner circle? I will ask, will that change their intentions, and if you believe so, show me an example where that was true. I believe it is good to have talks that build common ground if possible, but sooner or later the white elephant in the room will have to be dealt with, whatever that is. Diplomacy has mixed results here at best. It's a poker game where every tool in the toolbox must be brought to the game. Obama & Co. think they can get it done with just one tool. The problem is that these problems are out of the scope of community leaders and their normal solution of spreading around walking around money. Talk is cheap, especially with those that are resolute.

So where does this leave us? In the case of Israel with the Jihadist Flotilla, They have a few choices. All have their consequences. When the commandoes boarded the boat, they actually didn't expect the resistance they received and actually wished to pursue more peaceful methods of interdicting. It didn't go well and it will not be repeated, I assure you. it was a one shot deal. The Israelis have a legitimate concern about these "humanitarian" boats bringing weapons to Gaza. What was found on the boats justifies their concern, yet we have the mess.

Ultimately, Israel will do what they have to do to protect their interests. Obama should be supportive and the truth supports that position. The problem is he is breaking his back trying to get our enemies to love him, or at least not hate him. The time has come for tough talk. All tools need to be put on the table and shown to these despots and other half rate and third world idiots of what their options are. The problem is, what are our options? Frankly, we are over extended. What could we do?

The bottom line is that in a dangerous world where certain countries are becoming more dangerous. While we should avoid posturing and also becoming over extended, we need to send a message that cuts through all the noise.

The United States will defend itself against all enemies foreign and domestic with extreme prejudice.

The United States will support our allies in the face of aggression. We will defend them if asked.

The United States will use all tools available in diplomacy. Nothing is off the table.

The United States will judge it's relationships not by words, but by actions, and their will be accountability.

The United States will no longer support countries financially or otherwise that "Take the piss" on us.

After these statements of facts are made, then our actions must match them. The model for this was created by Ronald Reagan and modified by me. I would be slightly more hard ass. Again, actions must match words, or it's meaningless. It is like the guy that says, you better not cross this line, then the other guy crosses it, and he draws another one and makes the same demand again. It's a recipe for being playing and being feckless. It done by the Farm Animals® in Europe, but obviously it has not served them well.

The real bottom line is that the rest of the world is behaving like a petulant, obstinate child whose behavior has been reinforced by doing nothing. It's time for some tough love. If we want this double standard to stop, we must be willing to stand up and say enough is enough. Neville Chamberlain has been dead a long time and unfortunately was reanimated in November of 2008. It's time to send him back. We know where his pusillanimity lead, and it's no different this time around.

Posted by Eric Dondero at 8:25 AM

Leroy

PS--TOWERCLIMBER: THANKS FOR POSTING THE ORIGINAL STORY.

Edited June 7, 2010 by leroy
ADDED NOTE_-Added blog entry

[Mike.357]

Deadeye, you related to Helen Thomas?

[towerclimber37]

PS--TOWERCLIMBER: THANKS FOR POSTING THE ORIGINAL STORY.

NP, Leroy

by the way, I agree with your assessment.

From the updates I've read, it seems that Turkey is jumping onto that bandwagon too and said that they'd send a warship to "escort" the next flotilla.

Israel responded by saying that a warship would be a provocation and an act of war..and would be sunk.

Iran was blustering..more bloviating from it's revolutionary guard...now it looks like they may have to put up or shut up since those idiot Turks upped the ante on the game.

This should get right interesting here before long.

[Smith]

Eh, Iran is looking for more support from real countries and Turkey is just trying to buddy up to feel more important than they are. In the end they'll back down and then cry about how bad Israel and their "bullying" tactics are. These folks are the epitome of school yard bully cowards. Reminds me of the biblical proverb: "A fools lips invite a beating."

[Guest 70below]

I think we should send a team of Armenian's to negotiate with Iran and Turkey.....its a dangerous job.....all may be lost......

[mikegideon]

NP, Leroy

by the way, I agree with your assessment.

From the updates I've read, it seems that Turkey is jumping onto that bandwagon too and said that they'd send a warship to "escort" the next flotilla.

Israel responded by saying that a warship would be a provocation and an act of war..and would be sunk.

Iran was blustering..more bloviating from it's revolutionary guard...now it looks like they may have to put up or shut up since those idiot Turks upped the ante on the game.

This should get right interesting here before long.

I guess they don't remember the number 1 rule... don't f**k with Israel. Maybe time for a refresher.

[Guest Swamprunner]

I'd like to see it myself. It's high time the turks got their comeuppance. The whole situation is a bunch of horse dung. It's amazing the the big hue and cry against Israel was muted after the films of the boarding were shown. The whole lot of 'em should have been summarily executed.

The only thing the rag-heads respect is force and extreme violence. Israel should give 'em a dose.