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The question that needs to be asked is once the number of states on board passes the threshold. Two-thirds of the state legislatures demand Congress call a national convention. Then we need to get Three-fourths of the state legislatures to ratify.

But...

Why not do it?

It seems that is the direction we are heading in terms of state numbers. At some point we will have three-fourths of the states and I believe we should put an end to it right then and there.

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The question that needs to be asked is once the number of states on board passes the threshold. Two-thirds of the state legislatures demand Congress call a national convention. Then we need to get Three-fourths of the state legislatures to ratify.

But...

Why not do it?

It seems that is the direction we are heading in terms of state numbers. At some point we will have three-fourths of the states and I believe we should put an end to it right then and there.

I think a Constitutional convention is our best chance of reigning in the federal government. There are currently 29 states that either have or are considering a version of the Firearms Freedom Act. That's 58% of the states right there. Only two states away from the two-thirds needed to call for a convention.
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Do you REALLY want a Constitutional convention right NOW with all the a$$hats up there???

I think the problem with all the a$$hats up there is that they honestly think we the people will bend over and take whatever they give us.

That (they) in their wildest dreams could not imagine we the people as a whole standing up and with one voice, or in this case 3/4 th majority yelling ENOUGH! Once the CC was seated the full force and gravity of the situation would sink in and they would not dare challenge 75% of the states.

I think the libs would blink. If for nothing more than out of complete fear their jobs and days were numbers, if not over.

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Can someone give me some cliff notes? I'm not up to date on the Firearms Freedom Act, and from the first few paragraphs it seems to be focused on guns made in Alaska and interstate commerce. What all does it deal with?

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Guns manufactured and sold inside a given state are subject to state laws only, not subject to federal jurisdiction under the much tortured and often ill applied interstate commerce clause.

Guest 6.8 AR
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Really, the Commerce Clause of the Constitution has been abused by Congress and

the White House to gain power over the states and individuals for far too long. It was

intended to regulate states from placing tariffs against each other, and nothing else.

It is the catch-all of the progressives to usurp power over legitimate state functions.

It has been used unconstitutionally most of the time. Drugs, guns, taxation, etc.

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Yes, its absolutely insane the lengths that the federal government has tortured and stretch the CC to allow it to exercise venue over state matters.

One bizarre case involved the federal government successfully arguing the bootstrap sale of ketchup to a restaurant, which affected commerce. Therefore gave them controlling authority over crimes occuring at the restaurant where the ketchup was located.

No joke, it was a real federal court case

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Considering the number of states that have also passed some version of the Health Care Freedom Act, a Constitutional Convention might be one of the best things that could happen. Call it a sorely needed "Lesson in Democracy" for our elected leaders.

I like it.

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oh but least we not forget the madwoman hillary and the small arms treaty with the UN.....you know, the one that doesn't really "disarm" the citizens..:tinfoil:

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