Getting ready to start an AR build

[Il Duce]

I need some insight on my blueprint I have been working on. Tell me what I may be missing or what could be used that is better please. This is my first one and I would rather do it right.

Spikes Stripped Lower $70DPMS Lower Reciever Parts Kit $58.99

DPMS Sportical Flattop Upper Complete $399.99

Magpul Angled Fore Grip $33.20

Magpul Rail Section $9.00

Magpul Rear Folding MBUS $55.05

Magpul MOE Kit $99.95

Magpul Front Folding MBUS $37.95

Total $764.13

Edited May 28, 2010 by Il Duce

[Capbyrd]

I think you have a great list there but...

Is there any reason that you are choosing a commercial stock? You will have more options (should you decide to change later) if you run a mil spec tube.

[Chucktshoes]

I think you have a great list there but...

Is there any reason that you are choosing a commercial stock? You will have more options (should you decide to change later) if you run a mil spec tube.

+1

Go with the milspec stock. It is also my understanding that a milspec receiver extension tube will hold up better under hard use (such as advanced carbine classes) and is less likely to fail in a manner that can damage your lower receiver.

[leroy]

+1

Go with the milspec stock. It is also my understanding that a milspec receiver extension tube will hold up better under hard use (such as advanced carbine classes) and is less likely to fail in a manner that can damage your lower receiver.

Great parts list!! Me too on the milspec tube stock.

Have fun!

Kind regards,

Leroy

[Il Duce]

well if thats the case then DSG has this and itll save me like 50 bucks so im under 900 for a complete AR, i updated the list with the Magpul MOE Kit which includes, Milspec stock, MOE pistol grip, MOE carbine handguards, mil-spec buffer tube, latch plate, nut, buffer spring and carbine buffer. MOE stock includes buttpad

MAGPUL Moe Kit - Black

Edited May 27, 2010 by Il Duce

[Capbyrd]

YES! That MOE kit is fantastic. Go for it!

[Capbyrd]

Just realized that you need to wait on that kit. You are ordering a mid length upper so the handguard in that kit would be too short. Plus, the magpul midlength MOE handguard isn't going to be out until later this year.

[Il Duce]

if i could find one id like a magpul lower lol

[Il Duce]

Just realized that you need to wait on that kit. You are ordering a mid length upper so the handguard in that kit would be too short. Plus, the magpul midlength MOE handguard isn't going to be out until later this year.

is this the correct upper? i think i bookmarked the wrong one

Spikes Tactical Complete M4 5.56/.223 Upper Receiver

[Chucktshoes]

I have that MOE kit in FDE on my build. Good stuff.

[strickj]

That has carbine length handgaurds so your Magpul HG will fit.

However, if a mid is what you wanted, since you're going with BUS, you could cut the front sight and put a lowpro gas block and use a midlength HG

[Capbyrd]

is this the correct upper? i think i bookmarked the wrong one

Spikes Tactical Complete M4 5.56/.223 Upper Receiver

This upper is a carbine length gas system and would work with the MOE kit.

This is a mid length upper. The gas system is two inches longer on this one. (mid-length is my personal preference).

Spikes Tactical Complete Mid-Length 5.56/.223 Upper Receiver

My personal rifle. CMMG lower, CMMG lower parts kit, CMMG midlength upper with 16 inch barrel, YHM midlength handguards, harris bipod, hogue grip, Aimpoint CompM2.

I am most likely going to completely change this rifle soon. I am going to use an 18 inch bull barrel, scope it and put on a rifle length handguard to completely cover the gas block and then do a Magpul PRS stock.

[Il Duce]

LOL that was the upper i posted that you said wouldnt work with the handguard

[Capbyrd]

LOL that was the upper i posted that you said wouldnt work with the handguard

No sir. Look at your link and mine at the same time. My link is a Midlength gas system and yours is a carbine length. I know they look the same but they are different.

[Il Duce]

Just realized that you need to wait on that kit. You are ordering a mid length upper so the handguard in that kit would be too short. Plus, the magpul midlength MOE handguard isn't going to be out until later this year.

this was your first post talking about the upper and i still have not edited my upper from the list. i then went and copied the link to the only other spikes upper AIM has which was the M4 one then you linked me to my original mid length upper lol

[Capbyrd]

I think I may be confused then.

Are you wanting a mid-length upper or a carbine upper?

[Il Duce]

Whatever will work with that handguard is fine with me. what is the difference in the two?

[brooksjr]

Whatever will work with that handguard is fine with me. what is the difference in the two?

Look at the 2 links above and you will see the difference.

[Capbyrd]

A carbine length is ~7 inches. That is what will work with the current MOE handguard.

A mid-length gas system is ~9 inches. Magpul is releasing MOE handguards for this later this year. Look at the pictures to see how much of the barrel is covered and you can see the difference. I don't know much about the performance difference between the two. I just prefer the look of the mid-length system.

Also, both uppers in this thread already have a front sight so you can take that off your list. Or, you can get a railed gas block and use the magpul flip ups instead of the FSB.

[Il Duce]

appreciate it

[Il Duce]

By the time I get ready for the upper Magpul may have the mid length handguard out LOL, but if not and I get the carbine can I switch to mid length handguards?

Edited May 27, 2010 by Il Duce

[Capbyrd]

No. The Magpul handguards are designed to use the m4 style handguard clip thingies. Sorry, I don't know what its called. Those will be in the wrong place.

You could put a free float mid-length tube like a railed forearm over a carbine gas system though. You would just need to get a low profile gas block.

[Il Duce]

Ok well Ill start working on getting the other parts first and leave the MOE kit and upper as last and see what happens. i know it probably sounds stupid to wait on a 30 dollar handguard but i like how streamlined it is

[Capbyrd]

Doesn't sound stupid at all. I was excited about them releasing it but I got sick of waiting and went with rails. But like I said, I'm going to tear this apart and build a SASS setup instead.

[Il Duce]

Ill prob still order the MOE kit soon now that I think about it cause the handguards are only 30 bucks and that kit includes the parts needed for the mil spec stocks and i can always sell the other handguard