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Canyn were you wearing the dress when you were walking that dog?

It is a mini dress? :eek:

you should be so lucky...lol

I knew I wasnt gonna live that down...:lol:

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Actually it isn't the store owners policy.

It IS policy of the State of Tennessee's ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Commission).

I have been in the retail side of alcoholic beverages both here and in Texas (13 years in TN; 13 years in TX). Each states' ABC is pretty much the same. Every store is required to post an official "sign" stating it is illegal to carry a weapon into ANY establishment that sells alcoholic beverages.

As I plan on getting a concealed carry permit in the near future, I will be contacting the TN ABC to find out EXACTLY how the law reads and what is "legal" or not.

I'll keep you posted.

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Actually it isn't the store owners policy.

It IS policy of the State of Tennessee's ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Commission).

I have been in the retail side of alcoholic beverages both here and in Texas (13 years in TN; 13 years in TX). Each states' ABC is pretty much the same. Every store is required to post an official "sign" stating it is illegal to carry a weapon into ANY establishment that sells alcoholic beverages.

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the law states that you cannot carry where Alcohol is sold for ONSITE consumption....so unless you can crack a 40ouncer in this shop, it is legal by TN statute...but the store owner has the right to refuse carry by posting the proper signage

39-17-1305. Possession of firearm where alcoholic beverages are served. —

(a) It is an offense for a person to possess a firearm within the confines of a building open to the public where liquor, wine or other alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 57-3-101(a)(1)(A), or beer, as defined in § 57-6-102(1), are served for on premises consumption.

(:eek: A violation of this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

© The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to a person who is:

(1) In the actual discharge of official duties as a law enforcement officer, or is employed in the army, air force, navy, coast guard or marine service of the United States or any member of the Tennessee national guard in the line of duty and pursuant to military regulations, or is in the actual discharge of duties as a correctional officer employed by a penal institution; or

(2) On the person's own premises or premises under the person's control or who is the employee or agent of the owner of the premises with responsibility for protecting persons or property.

[Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 1; 1990, ch. 1029, § 4; 2001, ch. 345, § 1.]

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the law states that you cannot carry where Alcohol is sold for ONSITE consumption....so unless you can crack a 40ouncer in this shop, it is legal by TN statute...but the store owner has the right to refuse carry by posting the proper signage

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Also ProTex do you have the ABC chapter number and/or T.C.A. code that says a retailer must post a sign about weapons? I have been checking the Rules of the ABC website and Title 57 Intoxicating Liquors of the T.C.A. and so far all I can find is a law about posting a warning sign about consuming alcohol while pregnant. T.C.A. 57-1-211 but nothing about weapons.

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I couldnt find anything on ABCs site either...

also, just a note, here is the statute that allows the business owner to prohibit weapons:

39-17-1359. Prohibition at certain meetings — Posting notice. —

(a) An individual, corporation, business entity or local, state or federal government entity or agent thereof is authorized to prohibit the possession of weapons by any person otherwise authorized by §§ 39-17-1351 — 39-17-1360, at meetings conducted by, or on property owned, operated, or managed or under the control of the individual, corporation, business entity or government entity. Notice of the prohibition shall be posted. Posted notices shall be displayed in prominent locations, including all entrances primarily used by persons entering the building, portion of the building or buildings where weapon possession is prohibited. If the possession of weapons is also prohibited on the premises of the property as well as within the confines of a building located on the property, the notice shall be posted at all entrances to the premises that are primarily used by persons entering the property. The notice shall be in English but a notice may also be posted in any language used by patrons, customers or persons who frequent the place where weapon possession is prohibited. In addition to the sign, notice may also include the international circle and slash symbolizing the prohibition of the item within the circle. The sign shall be of a size that is plainly visible to the average person entering the building, premises or property and shall contain language substantially similar to the following:

PURSUANT TO § 39-17-1359, THE OWNER/OPERATOR OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BANNED WEAPONS ON THIS PROPERTY, OR WITHIN THIS BUILDING OR THIS PORTION OF THIS BUILDING. FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THIS PROHIBITION IS PUNISHABLE AS A CRIMINAL ACT UNDER STATE LAW AND MAY SUBJECT THE VIOLATOR TO A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500).

(:eek: Nothing in this section shall be construed to alter, reduce or eliminate any civil or criminal liability that a property owner or manager may have for injuries arising on their property.

© Any posted notice being used by a local, state or federal governmental entity on July 1, 2000, that is in substantial compliance with the provisions of subsection (a) of this section may continue to be used by the governmental entity.

(d) The provisions of this section shall not apply to title 70 regarding wildlife laws, rules and regulations.

[Acts 1996, ch. 905, § 11; 2000, ch. 929, § 1.]

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the laws were written in the early 90's when legal carry was just starting to catch on. remember, the politicians feared that the streets would run red with blood, therefore they were not sure how legally armed citizens would behave. they thought it would be the old west with shootings everywhere.

our job is to get these bleeding heart liberals out of office, and get some people in there that know what the hell is going on. statistics speak the facts. there has been no mass shootings by permit holders, as a matter of fact, you all know it has been proven by the stats that states with RTC laws have alot less violent cimes. look at DC, New York, Illinois and Wisconsin..........alot of bad things happen there. why? gun free zones, yet the governments wont let the public do anything to defend itself. vote the liberals out.

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has anyone seen my copy of war and peace? im looking for a short story

LOL...ought to see the thread about dogs....

the laws were written in the early 90's when legal carry was just starting to catch on. remember, the politicians feared that the streets would run red with blood, therefore they were not sure how legally armed citizens would behave. they thought it would be the old west with shootings everywhere.

our job is to get these bleeding heart liberals out of office, and get some people in there that know what the hell is going on. statistics speak the facts. there has been no mass shootings by permit holders, as a matter of fact, you all know it has been proven by the stats that states with RTC laws have alot less violent cimes. look at DC, New York, Illinois and Wisconsin..........alot of bad things happen there. why? gun free zones, yet the governments wont let the public do anything to defend itself. vote the liberals out.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!! :wave: The laws on handguns need a major overhaul, but not going to happen while Naifeh and his cronies are in office.

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has anyone seen my copy of war and peace? im looking for a short story

LOL...is there ANY short stories on the board??? hahaha

this is "how we roll":cool:

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